Masculinity isn’t the enemy—domination is. Jason Wilcox, LCSW, and Dr. Thaen Saelee sit down with Danny, a Portland-based designer/photographer, to explore how toxic masculinity shows up as emotional suppression, control, and performative “toughness”—and how healthy masculinity looks like strength with empathy, confidence without domination, and emotion without shame. Danny shares what unlearning looked like (therapy, boundaries, values), how it reshaped his relationships, and why “healing isn’t linear.” We also unpack the viral “bear vs man” meme, toxic patterns across identities, and practical steps to move from reactivity to connection. If you’ve ever felt stuck between being “a real man” and being a real human, this one’s for you.