Couch Time With Cat

Stuck in Drama? How to Get Out.


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In today's episode - we name the hidden roles that keep our conflicts on repeat and explain why the drama triangle can feel impossible to quit even when it hurts. We share simple ways to step out of victim, rescuer, and persecutor patterns and build self-trust in the moment. 
• the drama triangle as a relationship pattern driven by nervous system protection 
• the three roles and what they sound like under stress 
• how high achievers and helpers get pulled into overgiving and resentment 
• intermittent reinforcement and the “payoff” that keeps the cycle going 
• why the triangle creates intensity instead of intimacy 
• practical role shifts from victim to creator, persecutor to challenger, rescuer to coach 
• the interrupting question “What is the most loving thing I can do for myself right now?” 

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Couch Time with Cat isn’t therapy—it’s real conversation designed to support your journey alongside any personal or professional help you're receiving. If you're in emotional crisis or need immediate support, please get in touch with a professional or reach out to a 24/7 helpline like:


  • US: 988 (Suicide & Crisis Lifeline)
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  • Or find local resources through findahelpline.com


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Show hosted by: 

Catia Hernandez Holm, LMFT-A 

Supervised by Susan Gonzales, LMFT-S, LPC-S


You can connect with Catia at couchtimewithcat.com 

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Couch Time With CatBy Catia Hernandez Holm