The department of education estimates that 45 million students have borrowed up to $1.6 trillion in student loans from the federal government. Now the White House has announced plans to forgive all or some debt for millions of Americans. In this episode we talk to policy experts with differing political views. We get their perspective on this debt forgiveness plan. They also answer your questions about how the program works.

Doug Holtz-Eaken is president and founder of the American Action Forum, a center right policy institute. He is past director of the Congressional Budget Office and former chief economic policy advisor for Senator John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign. Andre Perry is senior fellow in the Metropolitan Policies Program at the Brookings Institute and author of Know Your Price Valuing Black Lives and Property in America's Black Cities. And Alí Bustamante is deputy director of the worker power and economic security program at the Roosevelt Institute, a liberal think tank.

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