Nicola Sturgeon has announced she is standing down as an MSP after more than a quarter of a century.

We ask her former spokesperson Stuart Nicolson and the BBC’s Glenn Campbell what the former First Minister and SNP leader was really like.

And we reflect on her leadership during the Covid pandemic, her independence strategy, the gender reform debate and the ongoing police investigation into the SNP’s finances, Operation Branchform.

Scotcast is the BBC’s Scottish news podcast, with Martin Geissler, Laura Miller and Natalie Higgins.

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