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Robyn has trusted an AI with her personal inbox for two weeks and it's holding, though the replies it drafts still sound like a stranger wrote them. That opens a conversation about tone, about Bailey's friends whose agents now email each other, and about whether an email your AI wrote should be signed on your behalf or not sent at all. Bailey has set a token record and is shipping faster than he ever has, and is starting to ask whether feeding the beast is the right work. Robyn has spent the same fortnight barely opening Claude — hiring, interviewing, onboarding a new starter — and has started thinking about someone's first weeks in a job as curating their context window.
Then the sticky notes. rentahuman.ai, where AI agents hire people to do the parts of a task that need a body. Ronny Chieng telling Harvard's graduating class to destroy AI, and why both hosts think the speech is smarter than its title. Whether art survives AI. And how far off a real Jarvis is, given Bailey bought a nose ring by talking to his phone on the drive in to record.
Nominally about AI. Mostly about everything else.
(00:00) How have you used AI this week?
(08:01) Feeding the beast
(10:41) Onboarding a human is curating a context window
(13:53) rentahuman.ai
(21:46) Haven't touched Claude in two weeks
(25:09) Nora, April, and the tools we name
(32:08) F*** AI — Ronny Chieng at Harvard
(43:32) Is art going to be all right?
(48:22) How far away are we from Jarvis? (52:39) What's next
Mentioned in this session
The speech
Renting a human
Jarvis
Art and the algorithm
Tools and callbacks
Bailey and Robyn talk through how AI is changing their day-to-day work: running one Claude session that manages other sessions, gathering context before starting a task, and the growing need to review and take ownership of what AI produces. They discuss what an organisation's AI policy should actually cover, why writing with AI can take longer rather than shorter, and the difference between work that looks expert and work that is.
The second half moves to Australia's proposed AI framework and Anthony Albanese's July speech, then to Bailey's giraffe problem: adaptations that pay off now and cost you later, and where that leaves people and organisations adopting AI as fast as they can.
Recorded in Adelaide, August 2026. Nominally about AI. Mostly about everything else.
Chapters
(00:00) How have you used AI this week?
(04:04) April, the chief of staff
(09:39) Why your organisation probably needs an AI policy
(17:46) Just because you can doesn't mean you should
(25:56) Religion is the lexicon we reach for
(34:38) How we actually work
(43:58) Albo's speech and Australia's AI framework
(51:06) The giraffe problem
(61:58) One foot in the future, one foot in today
Mentioned in this episode
Anthony Albanese's national AI framework speech, University of Sydney, 14 July 2026: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-14/albanese-maps-out-ai-future-introducing-national-framework/106915094
South Australia's Royal Commission into AI: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-10/artificial-intelligence-royal-commission-announced-in-sa/107017502
Mark Carney on middle powers, Davos 2026: https://www.weforum.org/stories/2026/01/davos-2026-special-address-by-mark-carney-prime-minister-of-canada/
Sebastian Mallaby, The Infinity Machine: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/461432/the-infinity-machine-by-mallaby-sebastian/9780241703564
Claude Code: https://claude.com/claude-code
Monologue: https://www.monologue.to/
Plaud: https://www.plaud.ai/
Every: https://every.to/
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