Time To Say Goodbye

“Succession,” edibles, and immigrant stories, with Hua Hsu


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Hello from Jay’s dried-out basement (finally)! 

This week, writer Hua Hsu joins us for a record fourth appearance on the pod as part of our neverending anniversary celebration. In a wide-ranging chat, we touch on (7:08) how podcasting has influenced our interview styles, (16:55) the "Succession" series finale [SPOILER ALERT], and (27:30) Tammy’s accidental encounter with edibles. (38:22) We also look back at a previous conversation with Hua, from January 19, 2021, and reflect on major changes in Asian American media representation.

In this episode, we ask: 

Which “Succession” character deserved to win?!

Whom has the Internet erased from Asian American art?  

Who is Jay's (extremely specific) target audience?

For more, see: 

* The full episode we excerpted, from January 2021: "That identity s**t, that’s old news, man": belated Capitol takes + "Chan is Missing" with Hua Hsu

* Our longer convo (and Jay’s full rant) about drugs, from July 2022: More Dem failings + a shifting drug culture  

* Hua’s piece on Frank Chin and “Aiiieeeee!”, plus his profile of Maxine Hong Kingston

* Jay’s profile of Zappos executive Tony Hsieh

* A 1993 performance by Lynbrook’s local ska band, Janitors Against Apartheid 

* The 1990s Godzilla collective 

Join us on June 10th, in Brooklyn, for our subscriber picnic! Subscribe on Patreon or Substack for more details. 

Keep in touch via Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter, and email us at [email protected].



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