Paris Marx is joined by Tim Schwab to discuss the evolving story of Bill Gates and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, as well as the issues that arise from allowing billionaires to use philanthropy to push personal political agendas and launder their reputations.

Tim Schwab is the author of The Bill Gates Problem: Reckoning with the Myth of the Good Billionaire.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.

Also mentioned in this episode:

Tim wrote about why Bill Gates should be removed from the foundation over his ties to Jeffrey Epstein.

Here is the interview Melinda French Gates did with NPR

Here is the Wall Street Journal article covering Bill Gates apology to Gates Foundation staff for his relationship with Epstein

Paris Marx is joined by Amanda Hanna-McLeer and Lucy Jackson to discuss the story of The Luddite Club, from its beginnings as a high school organization to its pivot into a non-profit and growth into an international movement.

Amanda Hanna-McLeer is a writer, educator, and director of The Luddite Club documentary. Lucy Jackson is an early member of the Luddite Club.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.

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Also mentioned in this episode:

The original New York Times article featuring the club

Amanda shouts out Brian Merchant’s book The One Device and Jenny Odell’s How to Do Nothing

The film discussed was John Carpenter’s 1988 sci-fi horror film They Live

Paris Marx is joined by James Vincent to discuss why we’re seeing humanoid robots everywhere, the motivations to pursue an all-purpose robot, how close we are to achieving that goal, and the social implications if we were to achieve it.

James Vincent is a UK-based journalist and author of Beyond Measure: The Hidden History of Measurement from Cubits to Quantum Constants.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.

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Also mentioned in this episode:

James wrote about what kicking robots can tell us about the state of modern robotics

Rodney Brooks makes a case for the difficulty in teaching robots human dexterity

Here is an in-depth look at what Agility Robotics has been working on

Shout-out to the 2008 movie Sleep Dealer

Japanese convenience stores are using robots run by offshore operators

This is what a toilet cleaning robot looks like

Paris Marx is joined by Thea Riofrancos to discuss the global struggle to move away from fossil fuels and the future of the green transition, including the limitations of existing supply chains, geopolitical tensions, and the tech industry's role in the growth of extractive industries.

Thea Riofrancos is the author of Extraction: The Frontiers of Green Capitalism. She is also Associate Professor of Political Science at Providence College and Strategic Co-Director of the Climate and Community Institute.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.

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Thea has written about Trump’s resource nationalism and the resources needed for a green transition.

The Climate and Community Institute has done a lot of research on mining and transportation.

Indonesia has been building out a ton of coal plants to power its nickel industry.

Paris Marx is joined by AS Hamrah to discuss the proposed Netflix-Warner Bros Discovery merger and what it might mean for the state of decline already facing modern cinema.

AS Hamrah is a film critic at n+1 and the author of Algorithm of the Night and Last Week in End Times Cinema.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.

Also mentioned in this episode:

AS Hamrah wrote the piece Time to Face Reality on reality television, and this piece on the state of modern cinema

New York Magazine published a feature on the Ellisons and their vision for Hollywood after taking over Paramount

Here’s the latest on the Netflix-Warner deal

Here’s more information on the ruling on Paramount Consent Decrees

Paris Marx is joined by Kat Tenbarge to discuss the explosion of abusive deepfakes on X, including how Elon Musk is profiting from the sexual exploitation of women and children while his followers use Grok to engage in gender-based violence.

Kat Tenbarge is an independent journalist who writes Spitfire News.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.

Also mentioned in this episode:

Kat has been thoroughly covering the Grok and XAI deepfake and sexual abuse story

Paris wrote about why the Grok scandal shows we need more comprehensive tech regulation

The deepfake documentary mentioned was called Another Body

You can see the result of Megan Thee Stallion’s defamation lawsuit here

Grok was blocked in Indonesia and Malaysia in response to its generation of explicit images

Paris Marx is joined by Chris Person to discuss the state of hardware and manufacturing in the tech industry, ways to hack your stuff, options to undermine Microsoft’s software dominance, and how the AI boom is making consumer electronics more expensive.

Chris Person is a co-founder of Aftermath and makes Highlight Reel.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.

Also mentioned in this episode:

CES showcased some weird gadgets this month.

Chris recently wrote about how AI is affecting tying your shoes.

Chris also wrote about the new Steam Machine.

Paris wrote about how to get off US tech.

A peak inside Chinese dark factories.

For those interested in learning more about Bazzite.

Canva buys Affinity.

Chris shouts out Gamers Nexus.

For those who want to dive deeper on RAM pricing.

Paris Marx marks the beginning of 2026 by discussing some of the big themes that will be moving the conversations he’ll be having this year, particularly digital sovereignty and rethinking the value of the tech we admit into our lives.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.

Also mentioned in this episode:

Paris wrote about the lessons of the US invasion of Venezuela and why we need to reassess our relationship to digital technology.

Paris co-authored a white paper on reclaiming digital sovereignty.

A digital detox is a great way to review your current relationship with tech.

Paris Marx is joined by Karen Hao to discuss how Sam Altman’s goal of scale at all costs has spawned a new empire founded on exploitation of people and the environment, resulting in not only the loss of valuable research into more inventive AI systems, but also exacerbated data privacy issues, intellectual property erosion, and the perpetuation of surveillance capitalism.

Karen Hao is an award-winning journalist and the author of Empire of AI: Dreams and Nightmares in Sam Altman’s OpenAI.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. This episode originally aired in June 2025.

Also mentioned in this episode:

Karen was the first journalist to profile OpenAI.

Karen has reported on the environmental impacts and human costs of AI.

The New York Times reported on why we're unlikely to get artificial general intelligence anytime soon.

Paris Marx is joined by Liz Pelly to discuss how Spotify changes how we listen to music and the broader impacts it has on the wider music industry. This episode previously aired in February 2025.

Liz Pelly is a music journalist and the author of Mood Machine.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Production for this episode was originally by Eric Wickham.

Also mentioned in this episode:

Shout-out to the book The People’s Platform by Astra Taylor

You can read an excerpt of Liz’s book in Harper’s.

The CEO of Suno AI said people “don’t enjoy” making music.

The Edmonton Public Library was mentioned for spearheading some cool projects featuring local musicians - combat capitalism by supporting the cool projects operating out of your own local library!

Hoopla works with local libraries to share music (and Libby partners with libraries to share audiobooks)