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What if the answer to your busy, anxious mind isn't another productivity hack or meditation app, but simply... quiet?

In this episode, I'm walking the enchanting trails of Little Langdale in the Lake District with Lauren, an ultra-runner who's discovered something most of us have forgotten: the profound healing power of noticing small things in nature.

You might expect someone who completes ultramarathons to talk about pushing harder, going further, achieving more. Instead, Lauren shares why getting genuinely excited about finding wood sorrel on her walk to work has been more transformative than any summit she's conquered.

We dive deep into:

• Why silence and quiet surroundings create space for less busy, anxious thinking
• The simple practice of "noticing more" that frees you from being locked in your own narrative
• Candid chats about phone boundaries, dopamine hits, and bedroom rules that actually work
• Lauren's incredible Frog Graham Round Challenge achievement making her the current Women's record holder! And the old beliefs about identity and self-worth that surfaced during it
• How she learned that her value as a human isn't tied to her performance as an athlete
• Why you absolutely don't need to go on "crazy long walks" to feel the mental health benefits of nature
• Practical strategies for being more present outdoors instead of trapped in anxious thought loops

Walking Route

📍 Little Langdale, Lake District, Cumbria, England

Starting Point: Near Slater's Bridge (also known as Slater Bridge), Little Langdale

Route Highlights: This walk takes you through one of the Lake District's most picturesque valleys, known for its narrow country lanes, and stunning fell views. W

About Lauren

Lauren is an ultra-athlete, specialises in coaching and guiding (Walk, Run, Swim), and is passionate advocate for the mental health benefits of spending time in nature. Based in Little Langdale in the heart of the Lake District for the past three years, she's found healing and perspective in the quiet spaces between the fells.

Lauren brings a unique lens to her outdoor pursuits, one that values the small details (like finding wood sorrel or spotting fungi on stone walls) as much as the big achievements. This scientific background informs her deep respect for the Lake District's ecosystems and her awareness of biosecurity issues affecting the region's waters.

Athletic Achievements: Lauren is the CURRENT WOMEN’S RECORD HOLDER the Frog Graham Round, completed in 2025!

About Sukany4 - The Podcast:

Sukany4 - The Podcast is a walking and talking podcast hosted by Sukanya, exploring business, wellness, creativity, and authentic living through conversations recorded while walking in the stunning landscapes of the Lake District and Cumbria. Each episode combines meaningful dialogue with the meditative rhythm of walking, creating a unique listening experience that invites you to slow down, reflect, and connect.

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This episode is sponsored by Queen Accountancy. Supporting business owners to make confident, informed decisions with their numbers. Head over to my website for the link: https://www.sukany4.com/s3e9-mel-walmesley-on-walking-intuition-food-and-family/

In this episode of Sukany4 – The Podcast, Sukanya walks and talks with Mel Walmsley, founder of Lakes Sandwiches and Brandreth Foods.

Set against the expansive views of Scout Scar above Kendal, this conversation explores what it takes to build a values led business over the long term. Mel shares the story of starting a business from her parents’ bungalow kitchen, growing through recessions and COVID, and learning when to push forward and when to pause.

This is nourishing conversation about food as care, navigating through uncertainty, and trusting your instincts. 

Walking route

📍 Scout Scar, Kendal, Cumbria

Scout Scar is a gentle yet expansive limestone escarpment overlooking Kendal and the Lyth Valley. It is a well worn, accessible walk with wide open, stunning views.

For Mel, this route is a deep personal meaning. It is a walk she has known since childhood, shared with her grandparents and parents, and now enjoyed with her own family. The perfect choice for our walk and talk. 

About Mel

Mel Walmsley is Kendal born and bred and the founder of Lakes Sandwiches, a Lake District based producer of premium sandwiches and Food2Go products made with locally sourced ingredients.

She is also co founder of Brandreth Foods, a sister business offering homemade style frozen meals designed to nourish, comfort and support wellbeing. Inspired by personal experience, Brandreth Foods focuses on food as care, connection and dignity.

With over seventeen years in business, Mel’s journey spans steady growth, diversification, industry recognition and leading through personal and economic challenges. 

About Sukany4 - The Podcast:

Sukany4 is a walking and talking podcast hosted by Sukanya, exploring business, wellness, creativity, and authentic living through conversations recorded while walking in the stunning landscapes of the Lake District and Cumbria. Each episode combines meaningful dialogue with the meditative rhythm of walking, creating a unique listening experience that invites you to slow down, reflect, and connect.

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What's the difference between material success and true happiness? And what happens when you realize you're put on earth to do more than just earn money?

In this episode of Sukany4 - The Podcast, host Sukanya walks around the stunning Tarn Hows in the Lake District with Amal Loring (formerly Debbie)—counselor, spiritual coach, business coach, and psychic medium.

Amal's journey is extraordinary: she was the second most successful salesperson in the world for a major IT company in the 1990s, first in the UK. But when someone offered her a gold Rolex watch with loose diamonds to seal a deal, she said no. That moment of integrity changed everything.

Walking Route Information:

Location: Tarn Hows, Lake District National Park, Cumbria Distance: Circular route, approximately 2.5km Difficulty: Easy - wide, accessible paths suitable for wheelchairs and buggies Features: Stunning views, accessible National Trust site, benches throughout Parking: National Trust car park (free with membership) Significance: A place Amal would visualise during challenging times in 50-degree UAE heat

About Amal Loring:

Amal Loring is a counsellor, spiritual coach, business coach, and psychic medium based in the Lake District. After a successful corporate career as one of the world's top IT salespeople, she retrained in NLP, hypnosis, and timeline therapy, establishing her practice in the UAE in 1999.

She lived in the United Arab Emirates for over two decades, working with clients from diverse cultural and religious backgrounds. After returning to the UK in 2021, she now helps people find happiness through counselling, build successful businesses through coaching, and connect with loved ones in spirit through mediumship.

Her approach is direct, no-nonsense, and deeply practical, focused on helping people live in the present rather than dwelling in past regrets or future anxieties.

About Sukany4 - The Podcast:

Sukany4 is a walking and talking podcast hosted by Sukanya, exploring business, wellness, creativity, and authentic living through conversations recorded while walking in the stunning landscapes of the Lake District and Cumbria. Each episode combines meaningful dialogue with the meditative rhythm of walking, creating a unique listening experience that invites you to slow down, reflect, and connect.

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Join us for a transformative walk through Cogra Moss with Rowan Carr, founder and creator of Black Body Heart Mind. We explore somatic anti-racism, the difference between releasing and transforming trauma, and building embodied resilience through classical tantric yoga practices. Recorded while walking in the stunning Lake District, this conversation covers racial justice, meditation, and the power of discipline in healing.

Walk Location: Cogra Moss, Cumbria, Lake District Distance: Approximately 3km circular walk 

About Rowan Carr:

Rowan Carr is founder and creator of Black Body Heart Mind, a somatic anti-racism practice based in Cumbria, a yoga practitioner and meditation teacher. He holds a degree in Interdisciplinary African Studies and a master's degree in Race and Ethnic Studies (both with distinction).

After a decade of frontline racial justice work in Birmingham, Rowan moved to the Lake District in 2013, where he deepened his meditation practice and studied classical tantric yoga, Kemetic (Egyptian) yoga, and somatic healing. He served two terms on Joseph Rowntree's Racial Justice Committee and has worked with young people, taught at Bournville College, and developed comprehensive courses in meditation and spiritual development.

Rowan designs transformative courses that give participants the tools to practice independently, teaching them to fish, rather than feeding them.

What Makes This Episode Special:

This episode includes a real-time example of the exact harm we were discussing. Halfway through our walk, a white man approached us and immediately asked where we're "really from," despite us both saying we lived locally. The timing was almost divine intervention, perfectly illustrating why Rowan's work is so necessary.

You'll also hear Rowan's singing bowl meditation, recorded live at Cogra Moss, a beautiful invitation to pause and come into your body.

About Sukany4 - The Podcast:

Sukany4 is a walking and talking podcast hosted by Sukanya, exploring business, wellness, creativity, and authentic living through conversations recorded while walking in the stunning landscapes of the Lake District and Cumbria. Each episode combines meaningful dialogue with the meditative rhythm of walking, creating a unique listening experience that invites you to slow down, reflect, and connect.

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Join me for a stunning walk around Wet Sleddale Reservoir with Alison Marsden, Alexander Technique teacher, reflexologist, food coach, and author of The Jigsaw Method. Alison introduced me to this breath-taking walk, and along the way, she shares her remarkable journey from chronic back pain and lifelong digestive issues to helping others move with ease and reconnect with their body's wisdom. 

We explore the "boiled frog syndrome" of unconscious tension, why dietary confusion keeps us from trusting ourselves, and what Alison learned as a National Park Ranger that applies perfectly to life. Plus, we encounter an impressively large dragonfly, get slightly lost (proving that "those who've never got lost have never been anywhere"), and yes, there's a horsefly attack. 

This episode  of Sukany4 - The Podcast, the walking talking podcast, is for anyone struggling with chronic pain, digestive issues, or simply wanting to move through life with more awareness and less strain. 

 About Alison Marsden 

Alison is an Alexander Technique teacher (trained with the Society of Teachers of the Alexander Technique in Kendal, Cumbria), reflexologist, yoga teacher, and food coach. With nearly 40 years of practice, she helps people regain the joy of movement without painkillers or surgery. She's also a former National Park Ranger, and the author of "The Jigsaw Method: Building Balance into Your Diet with the Power of the Moon." 

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Walking and Talking: Discover One of the Best Podcasts for Walking

This episode takes you on a peaceful wander through Kirkby Lonsdale with Michelle Nurdin, founder of Travel by Michelle. It is ideal if you enjoy a walking the dog podcast, a walk in talk podcast or simply want the best podcast to listen to while walking. Michelle shares how she stepped away from a demanding corporate sales career and returned to her first love, travel, building a thriving concierge style consultancy grounded in care, expertise and genuine connection.

From Corporate Pressure to Travel Expertise
After years in high intensity roles, Michelle chose a new direction and returned to the travel world. She now supports clients from the very first conversation to the moment they return home, covering bookings, insurance, car parking, excursions and long term relationships. Her story offers lessons that belong in any great business podcast and shows how traditional services can thrive even in an online world.

Business Built on Community Strength
Kirkby Lonsdale is at the heart of this community podcast episode. Michelle’s business has grown through meaningful local backing, from supportive groups to a town filled with independent shops. When a major fire struck in December 2024, the community rallied immediately with fundraising, coordinated recovery and the Build Back Kirkby Lonsdale project. It is a powerful example of community building in action and a reminder of how businesses and local people lift one another.

Solo Travel and Finding a Niche
Michelle has created a clear niche supporting solo travellers, many of whom face barriers such as higher hotel costs or uncertainty about travelling alone. She works with operators who welcome single travellers, hosts events to help people find travel companions and runs the Lonsdale Cruise Club tailored for solo explorers. It is a brilliant insight for listeners who enjoy business management podcasts and want to understand how niche services grow.

Our Walk Around Kirkby Lonsdale
This episode follows an easy two mile route beginning at St Mary’s Church and taking in Ruskin’s View, the Radical Steps, the River Lune, Devil’s Bridge and the market square. If you are searching for the best podcasts for walks, the best walking podcasts or the best podcasts for walking UK, this gentle journey is perfect company.

Balancing Business with Real Life
Michelle reflects on moving to Kirkby Lonsdale and embracing a calmer pace. She talks honestly about work and life balance, time saving habits and the importance of working smarter when self employed. These insights sit comfortably among the best business podcasts UK listeners enjoy for practical and grounded advice.

The Travel Industry Today
The conversation also explores how the travel industry has shifted. From cancellations to sudden restrictions, recent years have shown why travel consultants are in demand again. Michelle explains how she supports clients through disruptions, manages insurance questions and helps with fast changing itineraries. She also touches on trends including cruising, travel to China, solo exploration and meaningful experiences.

Join Us on the Path
If you want one of the best podcasts to walk to, blending landscape, business insight and real community stories, lace up and enjoy this walk through beautiful Kirkby Lonsdale with Michelle.

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Join us for a beautiful autumn walk along the Cumbria Way from Caldbeck village through Parsons Woods with Sam Massey, co-founder of Woman Up UK and youth worker with over 20 years of transformative experience across Cumbria. What started as leaving school at 15 has led to a career creating inclusive spaces where young people can have the conversations they desperately need, even when schools are too afraid to tackle them.

In this episode, Sam shares her unconventional journey from school struggles to Virgin Atlantic flight attendant to discovering her calling in youth and community work. She opens up about the mentor who changed everything by sitting on a street with someone at rock bottom, sharing chips and unconditional support. We explore why youth workers occupy this unique non-authoritative space in young people's lives, how period workshops open doors to conversations about shame and power, and why Sam believes "you can't hate up close."

Sam also discusses her current work supporting families seeking asylum in isolated rural communities, tackling far-right rhetoric creeping into schools, and launching girls-only (and non-binary inclusive) youth groups across Carlisle through Woman Up UK.

Recorded on a day that started rainy but turned beautiful, you'll hear us navigating muddy riverside paths, nearly dropping phones, and maybe, just maybe, me slipping once or twice!

Perfect for:

• Teachers, youth workers, and anyone working with young people
• Parents navigating difficult conversations with their children
• Anyone interested in social justice and community development
• People who've ever felt like the education system failed them
• Those wanting to understand how to create truly inclusive spaces

Walk Location: Caldbeck to Parsons Woods, Cumbria Way, Cumbria

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Walking through Serpentine Wood, Kendal with Karen Gee: From Geography Graduate to Cycling Entrepreneur | Lake District Hiking Podcast

Join us for a stunning walk up Scout Scar in the Lake District with Karen Gee, founder of Cycle Sprog and self-proclaimed "accidental entrepreneur." What started as a frustrated search for children's cycling gloves fourteen years ago has grown into a thriving family cycling resource—all while Karen maintains her "double life" as a corporate project manager.

In this episode, Karen shares her unconventional journey from geography graduate to database designer to business owner, offering refreshingly honest advice about entrepreneurship, the importance of finding your niche, and why perfect Instagram families shouldn't be your benchmark. We also dive into practical cycling advice just in time for the holidays, including why you should never buy a Frozen-branded bike (seriously) and the magic of balance bikes.

Recorded on an unexpectedly warm September day, you'll hear us navigating gates, dodging golfers, and getting progressively more out of breath as we climb!

Perfect for:  Parents looking to get their kids cycling (or already cycling with children).  Aspiring entrepreneurs wondering if they can start something "on the side".  Anyone juggling multiple careers or passions.

Walk Location: Serpentine Wood, Kendal, Cumbria.

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Walking the Dalesway with Al Topping: From Robotics Engineer to Hospitality Marketing Strategist | Lake District Hiking Podcast

Join us for a beautiful summer walk along the Dalesway from Staveley to Windermere as we explore Al Topping's unconventional career journey from robotics engineer to Army officer to outdoor photographer to hospitality marketing expert.

In this Lake District walking podcast episode, Al shares hard-won entrepreneurial wisdom including:

🥾 Why he launched an outdoor photography business two weeks before lockdown (and how terrible timing became brilliant timing)

🥾 The shift from outdoor photography to strategic hospitality marketing in Cumbria

🥾 How to avoid "paying the dumb tax" when starting a business

🥾 Why marketing should be treated as a revenue generator, not a cost center

🥾 The importance of picking up the phone instead of relying solely on social media

🥾 Building a business around living well in the Lakes, not just working hard

Al is the founder of Content-Team, a strategic marketing platform designed specifically for hospitality businesses, and works with outdoor brands through Al Topping Photography.

Perfect for: Entrepreneurs, outdoor photographers, hospitality business owners, Lake District enthusiasts, career changers, and anyone interested in strategic marketing or building a location-based business.

Walk Location: The Dalesway footpath, Staveley to Windermere, Cumbria, Lake District

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Sukany4 – The Podcast is back for Season 3!

We’re returning to beautiful Cumbria for a brand-new series of 19 walks, and 19 incredible guests who all call Cumbria home. Join host Sukanya as she walks, talks, and explores more of our stories from every corner of the county.

🚶‍♀️ Expect deep conversations, plenty of giggles, and what has not become par for the course, logistical challenges!

🎶 This season’s music partner is a Band Called Persimmon; a boundary-pushing band blending jazz, neo-soul, R&B, hip-hop, spoken word, and electronica. Rooted in contemporary jazz, Persimmon’s sound moves between creative improvisation, groove-driven rhythms, and lyrics that explore grief, longing, anti-capitalist rage, and utopian dreaming. I hope you love the sound as much as I do! I've seen them live twice and they are sublime.

✨ First full episode drops October 23rd, 2025.
Set a reminder so you don’t miss it, and in the meantime, catch up on previous episodes to revisit some of our most inspiring conversations.

🎙️ Come back and tell us what you loved.

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