Sunday School Slackers

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Matteo and Chris Mac lose track of what episode number they're even on before diving into Spider-Man spoiler culture, X-Men '97's surprisingly bold handling of Nightcrawler's Catholic faith, and just how far the "Disney brand" has drifted from family-friendly. Then it's a full superhero draft: Captain America's faith and patriotism (and whether liking him makes you "MAGA"), a deep cut on Marvel's actual 90s Christian superhero The Illuminator, and a spirited Gambit casting debate that somehow lands on Matthew McConaughey.

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Chris Mac and Matteo are back with a shoutout to their newest superfan, a wild idea for a live podcast recording in Metro Detroit, and a deep dive into Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey — including its surprisingly Christian undercurrents, a John Bernthal rabbit hole, and a Golden Rule debate. Then Chris confesses to his first-ever poker night with the in-laws, and Matteo makes him examine his Christian-household guilt over gambling, beer tents, and Kabasa.

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Matteo and Chris Mac are back with another round of hype, hilarity, and honest faith talk. This week Chris breaks down the full process behind directing his music video with Christian rapper Jon Rubin, the guys spiral into a deeply committed debate about deodorant and body odor, and then get into the real stuff — the best (and worst) marriage advice they've ever received, why "never go to bed angry" might be a myth, and whether Christians should talk more openly about sex.

Timestamps: 00:00 — Cold open & podcast bloopers 01:10 — Chris's new music video with Christian rapper Jon Rubin ("One Two Barbecue") 01:54 — Behind the scenes: pitching and directing the video 09:54 — Sweating through summer (the deodorant debate begins) 14:26 — Grateful for an honest marriage 15:15 — The worst marriage advice they've ever gotten 16:12 — "Never deprive each other" — getting biblical 17:05 — Subscribe & check out Creative Chapel 17:54 — Tim Keller's "7 days" advice 20:14 — The payment plan negotiation bit 22:34 — Christian marriage is fun sexually 23:09 — "Never go to bed angry" — myth or fact? 25:29 — Bad advice: hiding money from your spouse 27:02 — Funniest movie moments (22 Jump Street) 28:58 — Should Christians talk more openly about sex? 32:47 — Sign-off & shoutout to Printing Ox

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Episode 8 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris Mac and Mateo kick things off with a hot-food sweating confession and a breakdown of undeniable "white guy tendencies," then get surprisingly real about insecurity — including a wild story about being sized up by a group of strangers at a conference and accidentally starting a group chat called "The May Boys." They close it out by guessing each other's real vs. mental age (spoiler: nobody's guess was close) and swap stories about hairlines, family culture, and that one time Chris dyed his hair blond on a youth group dare.

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Timestamps: 0:00 – Intro: accidentally matching outfits & recording from the Creative Chapel studio 2:25 – White guy tendency #1: sweating at "mild" spicy food 5:21 – White guy tendency #2: the passive non-confrontational nod 6:34 – How Chris has changed in 8-9 years of friendship 8:05 – Subscribe ask 8:20 – Mateo's insecurities: the conference "circle of strangers" story 11:18 – Fan shoutout: Matt Honcho 12:13 – The "guess everyone's age" game at the conference 13:27 – The wild coincidence behind "The May Boys" group chat 14:34 – Debate: is naming a group chat after your birth month "girly"? 16:51 – A younger church planter asks Mateo for wisdom 18:31 – Lauren's new barista job & guessing her boss's real age 21:34 – The 99-year-old grandpa's "mental age" story 22:41 – Creative Chapel shoutout 23:07 – Guessing each other's real vs. mental age 24:14 – The reveal: how far off their guesses actually were 25:39 – Growing his hair out before his hairline gives up 27:14 – Comparing old family wedding photos 27:38 – The "we just pop by unannounced" family culture debate 30:15 – The barber "we all have the same haircut" story 31:28 – Almost shaving his head for the church plant 32:21 – The blond hair bet: 15 friends at youth group 32:41 – Wrap-up & next episode tease 33:03 – Outro & Printing Ox shoutout

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Episode 7 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris Mac and Mateo debate which Bible character has the biggest "unc energy" (Elisha and the bear-mauling incident is a strong contender), spiral into a surprisingly serious debate about whether Jesus was actually short, and share VBS stories — including the moment they discovered their curriculum was published by Mormons. Then Chris tells the full, chaotic story of his time as a college mascot, complete with a kid, a plastic sword, and a costume malfunction.

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Episode 6 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris Mac and Mateo dig into their middle names (and why Chris isn't actually a Jr.), confess secrets they've somehow never told their spouses, and go down a Letterboxd rabbit hole reviewing recent movies like Backrooms and Little Brother. Then it's VBS season — cue the wildest VBS themes either of them has ever encountered, including an "American Idol" parody and a summer camp with a very specific political bent.

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Episode 5 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris Mac and Mateo dig into what pastors and worship leaders actually get paid (including a wild $2,000-a-week rumor out of Detroit), then trade their most chaotic church memories — a youth pastor's crash course in explaining polyamory to 14-year-olds (or vise versa), a baptism testimony that goes sideways, and a Halloween church play moment neither of them will ever forget. They close it out with a rant about Christians who love the word "liturgy" a little too much.

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Episode 4 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris Mac and Matteo recap their first Father's Day as dads — church, gifts that made them both cry, and a card with a hidden puzzle — before Matteo shares the wildest conversation he's ever had at his regular Jewish bathhouse hangout. Plus, Chris Mac breaks the news that his signature Creative Chapel closing question (the Veggie Tales bit) might be getting cut for good.

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Episode 3 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris and Mateo design the ultimate church tailgate — playlist, food, games, and all — before Chris drops a hot take that Pilgrim's Progress might be the most tedious "classic" ever written. Then it's a rapid-fire roast of the best and worst cities in Metro Detroit.

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