Andrew Hale joins Victoria to discuss the profound impact of Sarah Fisher on the dog training community, emphasizing the importance of curiosity in both personal and professional development. They explore the joy of working with dogs, the concept of supportive walking, and the significance of understanding a dog's internal environment. 

The conversation also delves into the complexities of threat circuits and how they affect both humans and dogs, highlighting the need for a compassionate approach in dog training. Finally, they touch on the value of conferences and community in fostering growth and learning in the field of animal behavior.

Links to conferences mentioned in podcast:

• Emotional Wellbeing in Animals Conference 2026, Torquay
• Dog Behavior Conference - Registration now open!

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• Launch or level up your career as a professional dog trainer with the Victoria Stilwell Academy. Learn more here.