Bill Duncanson came up surfing the beaches of New Jersey, working at one of the area’s core surf shops before architecture became his second passion. Over time, those two paths merged.

Today, through BAR Architecture and Design, he’s carved out a unique niche designing surf lodges and surf parks—combining architectural thinking with a surfer’s understanding of how these spaces should feel and function.

In this podcast, we dig into what makes a good surf park design, what makes a great one, and where some parks still fall short.