From reality show scandal to startup success—Jacqueline Berg-Ramsey joins her husband Tyler Ramsey in one of the wildest and most heartfelt episodes of Painful Lessons Podcast. They relive their forbidden love story that started on Survivor: Gabon, including a secret African romance, getting caught by CBS, and the chaos that followed—including relapse, rehab, and redemption.

They also open up about the miracle of boundaries, parenting, forgiveness, and how Jacqueline’s revolutionary pregnancy health company, The Fresh Test, is transforming how women experience gestational diabetes testing.

This episode is for anyone navigating addiction, marriage, entrepreneurship, or just trying to love better.

💡 Topics include:

• Getting kicked off Survivor… then falling in love

• Secret underground rave in Africa

• Sobriety, relapse, and rebuilding trust

• Raising kids with grace (and chaos)

• Building a multimillion-dollar health startup

• Boundaries in relationships

• Redemption, forgiveness, and faith