Survivor South Africa Reality TV RHAPup co-hosts Shannon Gaitz and Mike Bloom are back with their final deep dive to wrap up their coverage of Survivor South Africa: Philippines. They speak to the season’s protagonist Werner Joubert about being the don, building the bus, how he handled his faith in the game and how Survivor and RHAP fandom influenced his gameplay.

Shannon and Mike will be back throughout the next few weeks, as they continue to do deep dives with this season’s contestants!