Jason Hartman talks with Kevin Ring, Director of Strategic Initiatives for Families Against Mandatory Minimums, former lobbyist and associate to Jack Abramoff.

Key Takeaways:

[2:48] Hear about the kind of money a lobbyist can make

[11:23] The amount of money he spent as a lobbyist that got him sent to prison on bribery charges.

[15:03] The United States incarceration rate and the government’s ability to find a crime you committed

[22:21] How much money Kevin had to spend, while cooperating with the government, to defend himself in court

[27:17] The dangers of privatized prisons

[32:40] What people can do to change the system

Website Mentioned:

www.famm.org