In this episode I chat to Gemma Clarke – my Bay FM radio co-host slash sometimes-boss slash long-time close friend. We melt in the sauna over a discussion about how we manage (and often mismanage) co-dependency in friendships, striving and struggling to meet the diverse needs of the people we love, and dart between talking about falling in love, sharing financial responsibly in partnership, and Gem’s newly discovered marijuana-induced eyelid eczema. We also ponder whether or not we both have adult ADHD.

Gemma is the founder and editor of Global Hobo, a travel publication whose intention is to eradicate racism and call to question platforms with only white privilege perspectives in the travel media industry. She is also the mum of poetry and feminist publication Anaerkillik, the co-founder of a copywriting agency called Stray, an organiser of international writing workshops (which I teach on) and has the sickest van out of anyone I know.

Losing My Cool w/ Paige Leacey is a podcast about trying to stay warm in a world full of people acting too cool. It delves into the world of sex, love, lust, heartache, relationships and meltdowns of all shapes and sizes. This poddy doesn't seek to answer the big questions about romantic connection, but to normalise talking about 'em. All eps have been recorded inside an infrared sauna.

Intro: ⁠⁠Monarch⁠⁠

Audio production: ⁠⁠Alain De Carne⁠⁠

Sauna: ⁠⁠Trybe Wellness⁠⁠