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  • Ep 9 - Professor Martin Collins: Osteopathy In Britain

    Welcome to table talk, the podcast series where clinical experience informs optimum human function. Our Guest today is Professor Martin Collins. An author and expert on the history of osteopathy, we are lucky to have him on the podcast to discuss how Osteopathy arrived in Britain and how the profession developed.

    References:
    01:09 - How did you mange to gather all the information on the history of osteopathy and how reliable is it?
    04:52 - John O’Brien https://www.amazon.co.uk/John-Martin-Littlejohn-Enigma-Osteopathy/dp/1848291388
    Chris Campbell -Discovering John Martin Littlejohn https://www.waterstones.com/book/discovering-j-martin-littlejohn/chris-campbell/9781912606658
    5:26 - Who introduced Osteopathy to the UK?
    7:30 - Who were the first Osteopaths to practice in Britain?
    8:51 - Wilfred Streeter, Founder of Osteopathic defence league
    9:38 - Why was the British Osteopathic Associated founded? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Osteopathic_Association
    12:25 - Osteopathic education in Britain - Lookers school of bloodless surgery
    13:20 - Formation of The Association of Osteopath’s (1924)
    16:19 - *Osteopathic Association of Great Britain*
    16:48 - How did the early history of Naturopathy influence Osteopathy in Britain?
    17:09 - *Naturopathy, not Osteopathy (introduced into Britain)*
    18:37 - What attempts were made at legislation of Osteopathy within the 1920s and 1930s?
    21:40 - Lord Boothby and his association with Osteopathy
    22:34 - 1934 Legislation discussed in House of Lords
    22:46 - What happened at the select committee at the House of Lords in 1935?
    31:00 - What effect did the findings of the select committee have on Osteopathic institutions?
    33:00 - How many Osteopaths registered to the first official register?
    34:11 - *Accredited by the GCRO (not BOA)*
    37:00 - What were the notable changes made at the BSO during the post war period?
    37:20 - *Littlejohn died in 1947*
    39:24 - *Resigned as Sub-Dean, not Dean*
    41:15 - Move of the BSO from Buckingham Gate to Suffolk Street
    42:30 - *1997 not 1987*
    43:37 - *1997 not 1987
    44:42 - 1984, Princess Anne becomes Patron of BSO
    46:20 - 1988, BSO awarded degree status
    49:00 - After WW2, what other changes occurred within the profession?
    50:00 - Introduction of article 11
    51:18 - NHS was established in 1948 and how did this affect osteopaths and the profession?
    54:11 - Who was John Wernham and what was his concept of classical osteopathy
    https://johnwernhamclassicalosteopathy.com/
    https://classical-osteopathy.org/
    56:42 - National War Museum to Imperial War Museum
    57:00 - How has the Osteopathic profession navigated imposters over the years?
    1:00:18 - What other improvements were made in the curriculum across the Osteopathic colleges?
    1:04:14 - What legislative measures were taken post 1970s?
    1:08:32 - The Profumo Affair and Steven Ward https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profumo_affair
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Ward
    1:11:53 - *Maidstone to Near Maidenhead*
    1:21:28 - How did this impact Osteopathy as a profession?
    1:22:15 - How did the integration of Osteopathy into allied healthcare occur?
    1:24:35 - Osteopathy in Britain: The First hundred Years
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Osteopathy-Britain-First-Hundred-Years/dp/1419607847
    Rewriting of this book due to be published, hopefully in there next two years

    1 hr 26 min
  • Ep 11 - Dr Danny Miller: Living well with pain, Where Health Psychology And Osteopathy Converge

    Welcome to Table Talk, the podcast series where clinical experience informs optimum human function.

    Today we have a special guest, Dr Danny Miller. A practice educator at the University College of Osteopathy, who has recently completed a doctorate in Health Psychology at the University of West England. Danny’s doctoral research involves an exploration in how individuals can live well with pain and how an Osteopath can be involved in fostering the process of living well. Join us as we uncover Danny’s insights into holistic health practices and the profound impact of his work in enhancing the quality of life of his patients.
    If you want to book or get in contact with Danny can find via links below:
    https://puresportsmed.com/team/danny-...
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-danny-...
    References:
    1:15 - Can you tell us a bit about your back story before becoming and Osteopath?
    6:58 - What is health Psychology?
    8:06 - How does Health Psychology integrate with Osteopathy?
    10:55 - How do you approach patients that don’t have a functional outcome yet are still in significant pain? ‘Im in pain and I cant do anything’
    12:48 - How do you try to bring your best self into the treatment room?
    15:39 - What does living well with pain look like?
    20:05 - Knowing when a patient is ready to change
    22:46 - What does living well with pain mean to you and what were the findings from your research?
    28:53 - How did you find other osteopaths received this unity between health psychology and Osteopathy?
    30:46 - Do you find that there is resistance to the focus on positives or that it invalidates the patients experience?
    31:31 - William Osler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William...
    33:45 - What does pain mean to you?
    36:48 - Living Well With Pain While Seeing An Osteopath: An Interpretative Phenomenological Analysis: https://uwe-repository.worktribe.com/...
    37:02 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havi_Carel
    39:33 - How do illness/ pain beliefs impact treatment and treatment outcomes?
    40:48 - UCO associate clinic: https://clinic.uco.ac.uk/clinic/assoc...
    44:02 - Unpairing heroism in manual therapy
    46:21 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...)
    46:50 - how have your beliefs had to change in order to become the practitioner you are today?
    50:00 - If you cant help everyone, how do you manage that personally?
    53:48 - What advice would you give to new graduates and clinicians to ensure you don’t become stale in your practice.
    56:30- How do you see Osteopathy evolving in the future?
    58:25 - What makes Osteopathy unique?
    01:00:35 - Findings from Living Well With Pain
    01:01:23 - Aspirations and goals for the future?
    01:03:38 - https://puresportsmed.com/team/danny-...
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-danny-...

    1 hr 19 min
  • Ep 10 - Joshua Fein-Brown: Interoception, Embodiment and Pain Care

    Welcome to Table Talk, the podcast series where clinical experience informs optimal human function. On this episode we have the luxury of speaking with Joshua Fein-Brown. An Osteopath, Naturopath and Pain Specialist. Joshua is a University lecturer at the British College Of Osteopathic Medicine and runs CPD courses on pain and well-being for professionals. His keen fascination for understanding pain has given him unique perspective on the link between mind and body. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did!


    https://www.feinhealth.co.uk/ 


    References: 


    2:59 - Eyal Lederman: the fall of the structural biomechanical model 

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21419349/ 


    4:29 - How has your education informed your clinical practice?


    7:00 - What is interoception? 


    11:55 - Correlation between pain and trauma


    17:02 - How has your experience of pain informed your practice?


    24:17 - Actionable tools to improve interoception 


    29:00 - Describing pain; for patient and practitioner


    34:26 - Are there any challenges or things to be aware of when using interoception in practice?


    38:10 - The use of breath and regulation of autonomic nervous system 


    41:00 - Holding space with people in debilitating pain


    46:35 - Finding balance between the internal need to care for others and providing care to patients 


    48:00 - James Baldwin; “You think your pain and your heartbreak are unprecedented in the history of the world, but then you read. It was books that taught me that the things that tormented me most were the very things that connected me with all the people who were alive, who had ever been alive.”

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/5853-you-think-your-pain-and-your-heartbreak-are-unprecedented-in 


    49:33 - How do you cope when patients don’t get better?


    54:55 - Where do you feel like pain care is evolving?


    59:00 - CPD Courses or booking with Joshua: https://www.feinhealth.co.uk/

    1 hr
  • Ep 8 - Professor Martin Collins: The founders Of Osteopathy

    Welcome to table talk, the podcast series where clinical experience informs optimum human function. Our Guest today is Professor Martin Collins. An author and expert on the history of osteopathy, we are lucky to have him on the podcast to discuss the founders of Osteopathy and their contributions that shaped this unique approach to healthcare. 

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Osteopathy-Britain-First-Hundred-Years/dp/1419607847


    References:


    1:43 - BBC doc - scandal, Profumo affair https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7250774/ 


    2:35 - Is the history of osteopathy of interest to medical historians and other complementary therapies?


    3:35 - How did Osteopathy arise?


    3:40 - Andrew Taylor Still - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Taylor_Still 


    4:00 - Bone setting, what is it?


    5:43 - Sarah Mapp - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Mapp 


    7:26 - Sir James Paget - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Paget 


    8:42 - Sir Herbert Barker - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Atkinson_Barker  


    10:00 - A.T.Still and his family/early life


    13:30 - A.T.Still’s autobiography - https://www.thegreatbritishbookshop.co.uk/products/autobiography-of-andrew-t-still-with-a-history-of-the-discovery-and-development-of-the-science-of-osteopathy-together-with-an-account-of-the-founding-of-the-american-school-of-osteopathy-classic-reprint 


    17:29 - Where did A.T.Still learn medicine?


    18:50 - What treatment modalities influenced A.T.Still’s osteopathy?


    22:25 - Magnetic healing


    24:15 - 1874 and the crafting of osteopathy


    26:30 - A.T.Still’s principles of osteopathy


    28:00 - What led to establishment of the American school of osteopathy? - https://www.atsu.edu/contact/history 


    29:00 - How did the curriculum change over time?


    32:00 - Graduates of the ASO and their impact on the development of osteopathy


    33:17 - What happened to A.T.Still after the 1890’s


    34:06 - Osteopathy research and practice by A.T.Still - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Osteopathy-Research-Practice-Andrew-Taylor/dp/1979950598/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DgjMTu2bpAtnnrf5m7huR4JQ_eD30eA6NA_VkJoNnWneiiWwVtfkdUQKnfzwXcOhySq5PeNu9I6GLr0KzUeAWE494B0JPljdDnqyzWQA9QeLiaj5-IxdOethfKjDGg4hZz2gsRGYjcu89KjyCD7npwJibIKcQS8bD0vPBFjFKiZx2vhJY4Gz8NSGuSmm4lFBFdxSCMlLLtEMl_0noAY3MGJzu9CX8-oUQ3uBxvR4Ggs.tpw7GxtSE5_Bu_w9ZoqhPgg4gTiKHNCri1qMEm7YW1Q&dib_tag=se&qid=1710942133&refinements=p_27%3AAndrew+Taylor+Still&s=books&sr=1-1


    34:35 - Summary of A.T.Still.


    37:30 - John Martin LittleJohn and the introduction of Osteopathy to Britain 


    38:57 - Why was John O’Brians book on J.M.Littlejohn titled An Enigma of Osteopathy? https://www.amazon.co.uk/John-Martin-Littlejohn-Enigma-Osteopathy/dp/1848291388 


    39:10 - Chris Campbell book on Littlejohn - https://www.waterstones.com/book/john-martin-littlejohn/chris-campbell/9781912606757 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY1-1pMtvOs 


    39:37 - J.M.Littlejohn and his background - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Martin_Littlejohn 


    41:20 - John Martin Littlejohn and his qualifications


    43:00 - Why did he travel to the US?


    45:00 - what led Littlejohn to enrol at Columbia college?


    48:00 - How did Littlejohn become involved in Osteopathy?


    52:00 - Conflicts at the ASO


    56:00 - Why did he establish the American College of Osteopathic Medicine and Surgery? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_College_of_Osteopathic_Medicine 


    57:38 - What was Littlejohns view of osteopathy?


    58:00 - Why did he leave the college?


    1:00:10 - What did Littlejohn do on his return to the UK?


    1:04:40 - What were Littlejohn’s unique approaches to teaching and practice?


    1:06:44 - What were some of the contributions of the graduates of the BSO (now the university college of osteopathy) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_College_of_Osteopathy 


    1:13:02 - What controversies were linked to Littlejohn while he was at the BSO?


    1:16:00 - Summary of John Martin Littlejohn’s contribution to Osteopathy 


    1 hr 18 min
  • Ep 7 - Joanna Prance: Challenges To Triumphs: From Childbirth Injury To Life As An Ostomate

    Welcome to Table Talk, the podcast series where clinical experience informs optimal human function. Our guest today is Joanna Prance.

    Jo is a fitness consultant, personal trainer, yoga instructor, and a mother. She specialises in pelvic floor exercise and Ostomy exercise, which is designed to help individuals who have undergone an ostomy surgery to maintain their physical fitness and improve their quality of life.
    An ostomate herself, Jo is also a MASIC Foundation Advocate and Women’s Health & Wellbeing Educator & Mentor.
    The MASIC Foundation is the only multi-disciplinary UK charity to support women who have suffered severe injuries during childbirth known as Obstetric Anal Sphincter Injuries. If you would like to donate to this cause their website can be found here: https://masic.org.uk/
    Jo has been raising awareness about these subjects by leading talks, including the University College of Osteopathy, which is how we first came to meet her.
    She is kindly joining us to discuss life as an ostomate and her work raising awareness around childbirth injuries.
    References:

    01:30 - How did you become an Ostomate?

    02:38 - Linking Obstetric Anal Sphincter Injuries (OASI) to birthing injuries

    04:02 - Patient experience during the birthing process and continuity of care

    11:18 - What needs to change for the patient handling in the UK to improve?

    14:25 - What advice would you give to women to advocate for their own health?

    16:37 - How did you become involved with MASIC Foundation - www.MASIC.org.uk

    19:00 - MASIC foundation - www.MASIC.org.uk. - www.joannaprance.org.uk

    20:33 - Challenges with and Overcoming resentment

    22:20 - Partners and their challenges

    23:10 - What are some of the problems you have experienced when working with the OASI population?

    25:00 - What happened once the dots started to connect with the nature of your injuries? Surgical procedures

    28:50 - Working with your body

    29:30 - How can an osteopath help with OASI population?

    31:32 - Returning to competitive sport

    33:50 - How did your exercise habits evolve after becoming an Ostomate?

    35:20 - Advice for those becoming an Ostomate

    38:32 - What is a stoma and what did you know about stomas prior to recieving your own?

    45:10 - Experience of getting a stoma fitted

    47:40 - What tips would you give Ostomates to stay physically active?

    50:00 - What support did you receive following the stoma fitting?

    52:00 - What are some of the challenges when living with a stoma?

    54:29 - How can partners support those who are becoming an Ostomate?

    56:32 - Stoma bag access and selection

    58:40 - Advice to new Ostomates

    01:01:10 - What other support roles do you play in this field?

    01:03:50 - Personal training and Pelvic floor exercise

    01:05:42 - Women's health physiotherapists

    01:08:01 - Further advice to Ostomates from experience

    Following this episode, Jo successfully completed the three peaks challenge, further shaping what it means to be an ostomate! Congratulations on an incredible achievement!
    If you would like to get in contact with Jo directly, she can be found at her website: https://www.joprance.com/




    1 hr 12 min
  • Ep 6 - Francesco Contiero: Bridging The Gap: Osteopathy, Physiotherapy, Sonography And Biomechanics

    Welcome to Table Talk, the podcast series where clinical experience informs optimal human function. Our guest today is Francesco Contiero. Francesco is a Physiotherapist, Osteopath and MSK Sonographer. He has also trained at the Grey Institute for Sport in Applied function sciences. He was previously the head lecturer of Neuroscience and Neurology at the University College of Osteopathy.

    He is kindly joining us today to discuss his experiences working in these fields
    and how his understanding of neuroscience enhances his current healthcare practices
    References:
    01:00 - What drew you to a career in osteopathy
    05:00 - Grey institute for sport - https://www.grayinstitute.com/.
    06:40 - How does your experience with training affect your treatment approach?
    11:00 - Crossfit; What are the physical requirements?
    13:40 - How has your own knowledge of the body has helped you achieve your fitness goals?
    16: 35 - How to approach treatment of athletes compared with general population?
    19:30- What can physiotherapy and osteopathy learn from eachother?
    25:24- How has sonography benefitted your treatment of patients?
    31:00 - Working within a clinical team
    33:45 - How to avoid becoming stale in your practice?
    37:00 - What experiences shaped your practice
    41:00 - introduction of pharmacology into clinical practice
    48:00 - Working with fascia - https://www.osteopatia.it/osteopatia-it-english/.
    Stecco's study of fascia https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3091422/.
    https://www.fascialmanipulation.com/. 
    52:53 - fascia, pain memory and biomechanics
    59:00 - priming, attention and coaching
    1:06:00 - professional and personal goals for future
    1:09:00 - CPD courses - Applied Biomechanics of the Shoulder https://cpd.uco.ac.uk/applied-biomechanics-of-the-shoulder-11-12-march-2023.
    Introduction to Neurodynamics - https://cpd.uco.ac.uk/an-introduction-to-neurodynamics-8-july-2023
    https://www.uco.ac.uk/


    1 hr 12 min
  • Ep 5 - Chris Sandford: What does living with HIV look like today?
    Welcome to Table Talk, the podcast series where clinical experience informs optimal human function. Our guest today is Chris Sandford. Chris was the governor of the Central and Northwest London NHS Foundation, the director of education for the National HIV Story Trust and a trustee of both the Bloomsbury Network and The Robert Grace Trust.
    He taught at a number of universities such as University College London, University College of Osteopathy, New York University and Oslo University. He provided education and awareness around the condition as well as peer support at the Bloomsbury clinic and Mortimer market centre.
    He kindly joined us on the podcast two months prior to his unexpected passing on the 28th of November 2022. In the episode, he discussed his experiences working and living with HIV and to break down some of the misconceptions surrounding the disease.
    References List:
    0:00 -> eulogy
    0:55 -> intro; https://www.cnwl.nhs.uk/ , https://www.nhst.org.uk/, https://bloomsburynetwork.co.uk/, https://www.robertgracetrust.org.uk/, https://www.uco.ac.uk/, https://www.sexualhealth.cnwl.nhs.uk/clinic/bloomsbury-clinic/,https://www.sexualhealth.cnwl.nhs.uk/clinic/mortimer-market-centre-including-margaret-pyke-centre/ 
    2:22  -> What roles do you play in education surrounding the disease?
    4:25 -> Princess Diana shaking hands with an HIV patient at the first HIV specialist clinic in 1987 https://www.insider.com/photo-princess-diana-shaking-hand-aids-patient-1987-2017-8
    6:45 -> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7100151/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8809442/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12204140/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3360831/ 
    8:15 -> Medical education around HIV 
    10:28 -> Experience of being treated as an HIV patient
    13:06 -> Challenges faced living with HIV
    30:27 -> Origins of The Robert Grace Trust - https://www.robertgracetrust.org.uk/
    32:22 -> Experiences working at the Mortimer Market Centre - https://bloomsburynetwork.co.uk/the-mortimer-market-centre/sexual-health-opening-times/
    40:20 -> Modern medication and management
    43:10 -> HIV figures, UK and Globally
    46:00 -> Homophobia, HIV Research and drug development
    53:40 -> What have we learned from how the world handled HIV in the 80’s?
    57:00 -> What gave you the strength to pursue education in this field?
    1:02:12 -> What did you know about HIV prior to diagnosis?
    1:09:20 -> Access to medication, current myths and the law
    1:12:38 -> Advice to those with HIV diagnosis
    1:18:42 -> Mechanisms of HIV, transmission, aetiology and pathophysiology, viral load etc
    1:28:20 -> How osteopaths can help with the management of HIV
    1:33:18 -> PrEP - pre-exposure prophylaxis and Post-exposure prophylaxis
    1:37:35 -> https://www.uco.ac.uk/
    1 hr 39 min
  • Ep 4 - Simona Negro: Professional Ballet, Accepting Injury, And Becoming An Osteopath

    Welcome to Table Talk, the podcast series where clinical experience informs optimal human function. I'm Brandon and I'm Romy, and our guest today is Simona Negro. Previously a professional ballet dancer,  Simona is now an osteopath, Technique tutor at the UCO, personal trainer and Pilates instructor.  We're very excited to have her here with us today to discuss how her experiences have informed her current healthcare practices.

    1 hr 47 min
  • Ep 3 - Daniel Orchard: Pain Science and The Future of Osteopathy
    Welcome to Table Talk, the podcast series where clinical experience informs optimal human function. Our guest today is Danny Orchard. Danny is an osteopath, course tutor and lecturer in Pain Science at the UCO and a Board Member to the Institute of Osteopathy Council. He also founded the Centre for Osteopathic Research and Excellence (CORE), aka Core Clapton, in 2017. We're very excited to have him here with us today to discuss his experiences and how his understanding of pain science enhances his current healthcare practices.
     References: 
    1:00 → CORE Clapton: https://www.coreclapton.org/
    4:31 → University College of Osteopathy: https://www.uco.ac.uk/
    5:57 → Core Clapton Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coreclapton/?hl=en
    12:00 → What is pain?
    18:20 → Difference between chronic and acute pain
    18:40 → Ascending and descending pain pathways
    28:00 → OsteoMAP: https://www.uco.ac.uk/research/osteomap-study
    31:58 → Core Clapton and its roles
    42:40 → Defining Osteopathy
    56 min
  • Ep 2 - Chris Williams: From Professional Motorsport To Mindfulness

    Chris Williams. The founder of Pro Clinic in Surrey and Deputy Unit Leader of osteopathic technique at the UCO in London, Chris is here to discuss his experience teaching osteopathy, as well as working in professional motor sport, and how this has fed his current healthcare practices.

    References List:

    https://www.osteopathy.org.uk/register-search/registrants/4874-mr-christopher-williams/?county=surrey&practice=7587-priory-osteopathic-clinic


    2:24 - University College of Osteopathy (previously the British School of Osteopathy) www.uco.ac.uk
    4:26 - Working in the BBC
    9:38 - Patient Care Team - UCO https://www.uco.ac.uk/about-uco/our-staff
    13:31 - Aston Martin Racing Team http://www.astonmartin.com/racing
    18:40 - Starting a Practice
    34:56 - The Book of Joy by Desmond Tutu, Dalai Lama
    35:12 - Chimp Paradox by Steve Peters
    36:01 - Attached by Amir Levine and Rachel Heller
    39:00 - Patient education
    46:56 - Advice for young graduates and manual therapists
    48:00 - Psychological side of treatment
    01:06:40 - Pro Clinic Surrey https://www.pro-clinic.co.uk/
    01:07:30 - For all motorsport track support or advice feel free to contact Chris via the Pro Clinic link above

    1 hr 9 min

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