We catch up with journalist and IPV survivor Natalie Pattillo to talk about the folks fighting for justice for criminalized survivors of intimate partner violence. Listen to find out the story behind Oklahoma activists that led the state to adopt a new law based on NY's Domestic Violence Survivor's Justice Act, and how you can get involved. And finally, Standford's Regilla Project just published a groundbreaking study revealing the scope of the IPV to prison pipeline.

**Natalie Pattillo,** journalist and co-producer of the film And So I Stayed

**Alexandra Bailey,** Senior Campaign Strategist for The Sentencing Project

**Amanda Ross**, activist and niece of April Wilkens, the first person to use the Oklahoma Survivors' Act to apply for a retroactive sentence reduction

**Debbie Mukamal,** Executive Director of Stanford Criminal Justice Center

**Andrea Cimino,** Director of Research for the Regilla Project

**Making Contact Staff:**

Episode Host: Amy Gastelum

Producers: Anita Johnson, Salima Hamirani, Amy Gastelum, and Lucy Kang

Executive Director: Jina Chung

Editor: Adwoa Gyimah-Brempong

Engineer: [Jeff Emtman](http://www.jeffemtman.com/)

Digital Marketing Manager: Lissa Deonarain

**Music Credits:**

_Podington Bear_

Tracks: _Arboles, Delphi, Poise _

From the album _Encouraging_

Licensed under [CC BY-NC](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/)

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Learn More:

**The Sentencing Project **

**Free April Wilkens **

**We Stand With Nikki**

**The Regilla Project **

**And So I Stayed Film **

**Survivor's Justice Project**

**Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law and Justice **