The episode kicks off with a humorous jab at the so-called 'taco trade'—Trump Always Chickens Out—before diving into the legalities of Trump's tariff threats, which a federal court has just ruled against. John and Gordy dissect Trump's bluster on international deals and the lack of signed agreements. They then pivot to a critique of Karoline Levitt’s anti-LGBTQ remarks, highlighting the administration's backward stance on education. Jim Santelle joins to discuss Project 2025's 'fourth pillar'—a plan to centralize power under Trump, threatening agencies' independence. The show wraps with a weather update and some playful banter about producer Sam's final day. :(

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