What separates successful agencies from the ones that are struggling to survive? Is it having the right offer, generating a steady pipeline, hiring the right team, charging higher, or creating the right leadership? Well, it all depends on which stage of the agency level you’re in, according to our guest today, Jason Swenk, widely successful agency advisor, resource speaker, and in his own words, adventurer.

Don’t skip this episode as Jason likens growing an agency to climbing a mountain, teaching us which systems, tools, and challenges you need to look out for in each phase to run a successful agency.