The fraud conversation is an ongoing and expanding one and this conversation I was lucky to have captured this with my phone recorder. The extent of this conversation shows how much and how far this going sideways in details not every one wants to hear so a couple parts were clipped off.

This is a recording of a conversation between three friends and an acquaintance. This is an outsider's perspective on the "Fraud: No, The Feeling" episode on the podcast. This episode is timely to me, most likely not the best audio quality, that I'll agree but its "takes", it can be as raw as it gets.

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