On this episode, we’re joined by MSH’s Chief Revenue Officer, Matt Gorman, and VP Solutions, Global RPO, Tomas Layrisse. We break down why technology isn’t the fix for recruitment’s biggest challenges and why relationships still matter more than ever.

Key Takeaways:

(02:04) Why CareerBuilder and Monster failed to evolve.

(07:36) LinkedIn’s rise, and how it left talent behind.

(13:31) Why relationships still win when it comes to AI.

(18:19) What top companies and startups get right about talent.

(21:20) Founders and managers: hiring is your job.

(23:04) Why the middle market keeps turning to firms like MSH.

(29:26) How Meta is poaching AI talent, and what it tells us.

(36:07) Meta’s late push through AI talent acquisition.

(39:32) AI’s growth is rapid but far from done.

(45:43) Three underrated founders who built empires.

(48:26) Lakers, Yankees, Madrid — sports brands that last.

Resources Mentioned:

Matt Gorman

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgormangtm/

MSH

https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentmsh/

Tomas Layrisse

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomaslayrisse/

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com

Indeed

https://www.indeed.com

ZoomInfo

https://www.zoominfo.com

Apollo.io

http://apollo.io

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To learn more about MSH, visit https://www.talentmsh.com. 

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