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Donald Trump hasn’t even been in office for a month, and already, his administration is dismantling key agencies of the federal government, including USAID. Much of this work is being done by shadow president Elon Musk, whose so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has been wreaking havoc on key systems at the Treasury, the Department of Education, and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. If DOGE really plans on cutting $2 trillion from the federal budget, there’s one place progressives say he can start: the Pentagon’s whopping $850 billion budget.

Ben Cohen, progressive activist and co-founder of the ice cream brand Ben & Jerry’s and Matthew Bartlett, a Republican strategist who served in Trump’s first-term State Department join Mehdi to discuss.

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