In this episode, host Carol Schultz speaks with Tim Kachuriak, Founder and Chief Innovation and Optimization Officer for NextAfter, a fundraising research lab consultancy and training institute that works with charities, nonprofits, and NGOs to help them grow their resource capacity. 

Tim had dedicated his life to non-profit work and is a fundraising thought leader and has realized that the true experts in this field are the donors; he's found a way to ask the right questions to determine why people donate to charities.

Listen to Tim's story of bootstrapping NextAfter and how it morphed into what it is today. Learn more at: https://www.nextafter.com/

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