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  • ‘The New Rules of Offensive Security: Human Judgement, AI and Who Holds the Accountability’ with Christie Terrill

    SEASON SIX: In this week's episode I chat to Christie Terrill, Chief Information Security Officer at Bishop Fox, where she has spent the past 17 years building her career in cybersecurity.

    We explore how offensive security is evolving, what organisations should really be testing for, and how AI is changing the relationship between technology and the security professionals who use it.

    We also discuss the difference between keeping humans in the loop and putting them in control of increasingly autonomous AI systems, where human judgement remains essential, and how far we should trust AI to operate independently.

    Finally, we turn to the changing role of the CISO, who should really own the risks associated with AI adoption, and the leadership skills and qualities organisations are increasingly looking for when appointing their security leaders.

    About Our Guest: Christie Terrill is the Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) of Bishop Fox, with more than 20 years of experience in cybersecurity services. She leads the company's internal security strategy and program, delivering innovative solutions that maximize value and build client confidence.

    A dedicated Bishop Fox veteran for over 17 years, Christie has been the CISO since 2023, when she led the team’s successful completion of the ISO/IEC 27001 Type 2 and SOC 2 Type 2 Security Trust Services Criteria certifications. Starting her journey as a consultant, Christie quickly ascended to Partner, pioneering the company’s enterprise security consulting practice and then serving in the sales organization. She made a lasting impact in her years elevating the engagement delivery and quality assurance services of the delivery excellence team, and she continues to keep a customer-centric approach in her CISO role.

    Prior to joining Bishop Fox, Christie served in the security consulting practices for Global 500 clients at Accenture and Ernst & Young.


    52 min
  • ‘Making Cybersecurity Work for Everyone: Better Awareness, Better Behaviour and Broader Routes into Cyber’ with Marie Jeffery

    SEASON SIX: In this week's episode I chat to Marie Jeffery, a former detective and cybercrime investigator who made the move from policing into information security.

    We talk about what really happens behind the scenes of a cybercrime investigation, why traditional security awareness training often misses the mark, and how organisations can build better security behaviours without relying on fear or blame.

    We also explore why phishing simulations should focus on encouraging people to report suspicious activity rather than catching them out, how to get everyone from employees to board members engaged in security, and why more women should consider cybersecurity as a career, even without a technical background.

    About Our Guest: Marie Jeffery is an Information Security professional, currently working with Blue Light Card. She brings a broad and practical perspective to cyber security, shaped by a career that spans policing and information security.

    Marie began her career in policing, where she developed strong investigative skills, attention to detail, and an understanding of risk, threat, and human behaviour. She later transitioned into cyber security, where she now focuses on strengthening organisational resilience and improving security awareness.

    Her work centres on helping colleagues understand real-world risks and embed secure behaviours into everyday activity. She is known for a clear, pragmatic approach that cuts through technical complexity and makes security relevant to non-specialists.

    Marie is particularly focused on building a positive security culture, ensuring that cyber security is understood, accessible, and aligned with how people actually work.


    54 min
  • ‘Staying Human: Why Community, Connection and Trust Matter More Than Ever in the Age of AI’ - With Mariana Padilla

    SEASON SIX: In this week's episode I chat to Mariana Padilla, Community Evangelist at Harmonic Security, former cybersecurity startup CEO and someone who is passionate about bringing people together across the industry.

    We explore how AI is changing the way cybersecurity companies engage with their audiences, why trust and genuine relationships matter more than ever, and the role the community plays in helping security leaders navigate an increasingly crowded market.

    We also discuss who should be accountable for AI security, whether it's time to rethink the conversation around women in cyber, and how to build a professional network and personal brand without it all feeling rather performative.

    A fascinating conversation about the changing cybersecurity landscape and the importance of genuine connection.

    About Our Guest: Mariana Padilla is the Community Evangelist at Harmonic Security and the former CEO and founder of HACKERverse. A seasoned entrepreneur and community builder, she created HACKERverse after growing frustrated with impersonal, transactional B2B buying experiences. Mariana believes human connection is the missing ingredient in B2B and that the companies who build genuine community and trust will be the ones that dominate their markets. 

    She speaks on AI security, community-led growth, personal branding, and professional networking, and is deeply committed to increasing diversity, equity, and inclusion in cybersecurity.


    52 min
  • 'Breaking the Firewalls: Building a Career, a Voice and a Future in Cybersecurity.' - With Roberta Anderson

    SEASON SIX: In this week's episode of Talent First, I chat to Roberta Anderson, CISO at Onterris and author of 'Breaking the Firewall: How Women in Cybersecurity Rise from Entry-Level to the C-Suite'. We talk about getting in and up in cybersecurity, the barriers that stop people getting the CISO role and how to overcome them, and whether or not the role itself has become unmanageable. 

    About Our Guest: Roberta Anderson is the CISO of Onterris, a global environmental solutions company, where she reports directly to the Board. A 25-year cybersecurity veteran and Air Force veteran, Roberta began her career as a cryptographic linguist before transitioning into computers and security — a path that shaped how she thinks about people, trust, and risk.

    She previously served as the City of Colorado Springs' first CISO and as VP of Information Security at Brightside Health. Roberta holds a M.S. in Cybersecurity from National University and a B.S. in Cybercrime Investigation from Colorado Technical University, along with the CISSP, CRISC, CDPSE, Security+, and Network+ credentials.

    Roberta is also the co-founder of TrustDossier, a published author, and a professional speaker who champions the next generation of cybersecurity talent — particularly women entering the field. She's a member of WiCyS, ISC2, ISACA, and ISSA, and lives in Colorado with her husband and daughter, a college sophomore who keeps her grounded in what the next generation of talent actually needs.

    Link to Roberta's book here: https://www.amazon.com/BREAKING-FIREWALL-Cybersecurity-Entry-Level-Understanding/dp/B0H68J4KR3/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0


    52 min
  • ‘The Future of Women in Cybersecurity Community, Mentoring and the WiCyS Mission’ - with Lynn Dohm

    SEASON SIX: In this weeks' episode of Talent First, I chat to the Executive Director of Women in Cybersecurity (WiCyS), Lynn Dohm - and what a brilliant way to get started after our summer holiday.

    We talk recruiting and retaining women in cyber, how to build a diverse workforce, the potential leadership crisis, and all about the brilliant work that Lynn and her team are doing support women at all stages of their career journeys.

    About Our Guest: Lynn Dohm, Executive Director of Women in CyberSecurity (WiCyS), leads initiatives to recruit, retain and advance women in cybersecurity. 

    With over two decades of experience as a strategist, she has successfully aligned businesses, nonprofits and grant-funded programs with workforce goals. Her accolades include an honorary Doctor of Science & Technology from Champlain College (2024), two SANS Difference Maker Awards and recognition as one of CS Hub’s Top 25 Cybersecurity Leaders. Lynn also contributes to the cybersecurity community through her roles on the CSA AI Initiative, the UMGC CIT Advisory Board, and as a Board Member for the CIS Alan Paller Laureate Program.

    54 min
  • The Power of the Multi-Channel Job Search (and how to do it) - with Michelle Edmondson

    TALENT FIRST TOOLKIT: In this week's episode of the Talent First Toolkit, I'm talking about one of the biggest misconceptions I see among senior technology and cybersecurity leaders: that finding your next executive role starts when you quickly update your LinkedIn profile or send your resume to a recruiter.

    It doesn't.

    In this episode, I explain why the most successful executive careers are built through a multi-channel job search. We explore how to position yourself with a compelling executive resume, why your personal brand is about far more than social media, and how to build a strategic network that creates opportunities long before a role is advertised.

    If you're targeting your first C-suite position, planning your next CIO, CTO or CISO move, or simply want to take a more intentional approach to your career, this episode is packed with practical advice from the hiring side of the table.

    I also share a special launch offer for the Talent First Toolkit: Executive LinkedIn Branding Support for a reduced fee for our listeners, designed to help senior technology leaders position themselves for the opportunities they really want.

    26 min
  • ‘Speaking from Experience: Risk, Resilience & The Modern CISO’ with Karen O’Reilly Smith

    SEASON SIX: In this week's episode of Talent First, 'Strictly Security', I chat to Karen O'Reilly Smith, Global CISO and advisory board member. We talk security and the business, building teams and what really happens when companies suffer a breach.

    We also talk about the rapidly evolving role of the CISO and why mentorship is so crucial for the future of the industry.

    If you are a CISO or future leader, this advice-driven episode is for you.

    About Our Guest: Karen O’Reilly Smith is a global cybersecurity leader whose career has been shaped by a simple belief: security is ultimately about people, trust, and resilience. Karen has led some of the world’s most complex security organizations—across financial services, healthcare, and global technology—guiding teams through rapid change, regulatory pressure, and evolving threats with a steady, humancentered approach.

    Most recently, Karen served as Senior Vice President and Chief Security Officer at Rackspace, where she led a global team of more than 140 professionals. Known for her calm, decisive leadership, she helped the organization modernize its security operations and strengthen regulatory readiness.

    Before Rackspace, Karen held senior security leadership roles at Aetna/CVS Health, Citigroup, Barclays, Wells Fargo, IBM and American Express. Whether reducing critical vulnerabilities across international healthcare operations or transforming identity governance for one of the world’s largest financial institutions, she has consistently focused on creating clarity in complexity and empowering teams to deliver meaningful, measurable outcomes.

    Karen is widely recognized for her ability to translate technical risk into clear business language, helping executives and boards make confident, informed decisions. She is also known for developing strong leadership pipelines and fostering environments where global teams can thrive.

    Today, she continues to advise organizations on cyber risk, AI, cloud security strategy and resilience. She is an active member of the Dallas CISO Roundtable Forum and the Village8 Cyber Security International Forum and serves as a Board Advisor for Specular.

    At her core, Karen is driven by a passion for building resilient organizations—and resilient people—in a world where the stakes have never been higher.


    51 min
  • Three LinkedIn Mistakes Tech Leaders Make (and why it leads to overwhelm) with Michelle Edmondson

    TALENT FIRST TOOLKIT: A new mini series that co-exists with our regular programming! This week, should senior technology leaders even bother with LinkedIn anymore?

    I explore why LinkedIn still matters, the three biggest mistakes I see technology and cybersecurity leaders making, and how those mistakes often lead to frustration, inconsistency, and overwhelm.

    I share practical insight into what recruiters and hiring leaders actually look for, how to engage without spending hours online, and what today's LinkedIn algorithm really rewards.

    If you've ever wondered whether LinkedIn is worth the effort, or how to make it work without becoming a full-time content creator, this episode is for you.



    22 min
  • Part Two - ‘The Art and Science of Cybersecurity: Leadership, Risk Translation and Protecting Critical Infrastructure’ - with India James

    Season Six: Episode 1, Part #2 - This week's episode of the award-winning Talent First is a continuation of my conversation with India James, security leader and expert in the expansion and resilience of energy and critical infrastructure. We talk about OT security and its growing importance, OTS careers, and how all security leaders can use their artistry to prepare their organisation for breaches and beyond.

    About Our Guest: India James is an accomplished and nationally recognized executive whose career spans governance, risk, and enterprise execution and transformation across U.S. energy and critical infrastructure sectors. She delivers a combination of policy and operational expertise, grounded in almost two decades of private-sector leadership with public-sector collaboration focused on infrastructure development and resilience.

    India served as Director, Security and Technology Policy for one of the nation’s largest energy providers, where she directed enterprise-wide responsibilities across IT, operational technology, and physical security – leveraging her experience on both the regulated and competitive sides of energy alongside real estate, critical operations, and large load management. On the EEI Security and Technology Grid of the Future Committee, her contributions and collaborations impacted all the U.S. investor-owned electric companies.

    She has raised over $4 billion in energy financing leading real estate and held leadership roles in customer strategy, infrastructure risk, and regulatory compliance, where she led multi- million-dollar modernization and partnership initiatives. Her work has influenced national standards for grid modernization, operational technology security, and resilience planning, guiding how energy systems evolve in a data-driven, high-risk environment. India is internationally recognized for her work at the intersection of energy, security & technology, and critical infrastructure.


    31 min
  • ‘The Art and Science of Cybersecurity: Leadership, Risk Translation and Protecting Critical Infrastructure’ - with India James

    SEASON SIX - ‘Strictly Security’: Part #1 - In this week’s episode of Talent First, and our first for Season Six, I chat to India James about why cybersecurity is both an art and a science.

    We explore the role creativity, intuition and judgement play in modern security leadership, and why the strongest security professionals are often the ones who can think beyond frameworks and controls.

    India also shares her perspective on translating cyber risk into language the business can actually understand, and why communication is becoming just as important as technical capability.

    A thoughtful start to our Strictly Security season, and the first part of a brilliant conversation with one of the most interesting voices in the space.

    About Our Guest: India James is an accomplished and nationally recognized executive whose career spans governance, risk, and enterprise execution and transformation across U.S. energy and critical infrastructure sectors. She delivers a combination of policy and operational expertise, grounded in almost two decades of private-sector leadership with public-sector collaboration focused on infrastructure development and resilience. 

    India served as Director, Security and Technology Policy for one of the nation’s largest energy providers, where she directed enterprise-wide responsibilities across IT, operational technology, and physical security – leveraging her experience on both the regulated and competitive sides of energy alongside real estate, critical operations, and large load management. On the EEI Security and Technology Grid of the Future Committee, her contributions and collaborations impacted all the U.S. investor-owned electric companies.

    She has raised over $4 billion in energy financing leading real estate and held leadership roles in customer strategy, infrastructure risk, and regulatory compliance, where she led multi- million-dollar modernization and partnership initiatives. Her work has influenced national standards for grid modernization, operational technology security, and resilience planning, guiding how energy systems evolve in a data-driven, high-risk environment. India is internationally recognized for her work at the intersection of energy, security & technology, and critical infrastructure.


    39 min

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