Two founders joining us today:

Vivek Ravisankar (HackerRank) on whether tech hiring is actually fixed, what AI does to the job of being an engineer, and where the human sits when machines write most of the code.

Kanav Hasija (MeltPlan) on why construction productivity has been falling for 50 years, what pre-construction planning has to do with everything that goes wrong on a build, and why Bessemer backed him at less than a year old.