Tales from the Trenches

Tales from the Trenches

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  • Should I Become a Developer?
    Podcast Episode 64: “Development Is a Senior Strategy.” Buying and holding single-family homes is a great strategy for anyone starting out in real estate investment. Many people eventually get into multifamily properties, which builds on the experience of basic buy-and-hold. Becoming a developer is a very different type of strategy and is much more difficult. … Continue reading Should I Become a Developer?
    13 min
  • Real Rules of Real Estate: RPRS & Realtors
    Podcast Episode 63:
    “Real Property Reports and Realtors.”

    In this Tale, our investor was right to walk away, but they will probably lose their deposit. Avoid using the same realtor for both buyer and seller. Know the difference between a Real Property Report and Title Insurance. Make sure your team members are real estate investment professionals, not just family, friends, or people who speak your language.

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    Real Rules of Real Estate:
    Real Property Reports and Realtors

    This is such a great learning Tale. It illustrates so many real estate investment teaching-points and the consequences of ignoring the Real Rules of Real Estate. The RRRE are understandable, fair to all and protective. Here is the Tale told in our investor’s own words (edited for clarity).

    I’m going to buy a house.

    Mistake 1: for some reason, we used the seller’s realtor that later we find out is the seller’s mother. From the beginning, she didn’t want to give us the Real Property Report (RPR) and insisted on giving us title insurance instead.

    When we met to sign the offer, she brought an offer to purchase form where the standard RPR clause (4.11) which states the seller should provide the buyer with an RPR and evidence of municipal compliance or non-conformance were scratched out already. Fortunately, I learned from Barry that RPR is very important, and it cannot be replaced by title insurance. They are two completely different products.

    With our insistence, she refused to write up a new offer but added “the seller should offer RPR and compliance before the closing day.”

    Mistake 2: My lawyer asked me why I want buy title insurance if the seller can give me RPR. And he told me with title insurance no RPR is OK; and with RPR, I don’t have to buy title insurance. Title insurance only protects me during the possession process; it’s not valid after the purchase.

    So I have to verify this by calling First Canadian Title. At that moment, I know I made a huge mistake to choose a lawyer just because he can speak my first language. I thought my English is not good enough and find a lawyer who can speak my first language can make me understand better.

    Now, one day before the possession day, the seller’s lawyer gave my lawyer RPR showing the property to be non compliance, because the city said the RPR survey shows the building was not set back enough from the regulations (one side over 0.3m and another side over 0.05m). So the development and building permit has to be applied. Plus the seller had added a fence and deck, no permits for the deck.

    Tomorrow is the closing day and we have to decide to take the risk or give up. So we decided to give up the deal. But the realtor (the seller’s mom) said that there must be a problem with the new survey because when her son purchased this house the 2006 RPR has no problem. She didn’t want offer RPR from the beginning just because they get new fence. If we cancel this deal she will not give my $5000 deposit back. My lawyer said in this case she have to give the deposit back.

    Is there any chance she can keep the deposit? And how long should she give me the deposit back if she has to?

    Talk about a lot of red flags on this deal! At the time of writing, this process was still ongoing…

    Here are some corrections to what our investor`s lawyer said:
    1. Title Insurance is not a substitute for an RPR and vice versa. They are complementary but completely different products. They protect and inform about different things.
    2. Title insurance does last past closing, in fact for as long as you own the property.
    3. Typically, Title Insurance does not cover fence issues or any situation where there is not enforced removal.
    4. Your starting position as a buyer should always be that you want the RPR and compliance. It’s essential if you are planning an addition or building new. If you don`t get compliance problems fixed when you buy, they will bite you when you sell.

      Consider making receipt and review of both the RPR and compliance a condition of your offer. A typical clause would look like this: “Subject to seller providing RPR and compliance satisfactory to buyer on or before (insert date).” This gives you a chance to identify and deal with issues well before the closing date.

      Lessons Learned:
      1. Don’t use the same realtor. In a ‘Dual Agent’ situation, my opinion is that the realtor cannot properly represent buyer or seller. Especially don’t use the same realtor when they are related to seller. It’s just impossible to be the completely unbiased agent that you need your realtor to be.
      2. Use your own regular realtor for personal as well as investment properties. Don’t call the realtor on the sign; get your own realtor to call.
      3. Don`t worry about whether the professional speaks your language. You can always get an interpreter. The key is to use a lawyer, realtor, accountant, mortgage broker, or other professional who understands investment real estate, likes dealing with investment real estate, and even better owns investment real estate him/herself. There are lots of investor professionals who fit this description.
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      5. Real Rules of Real Estate: RPRS & Realtors
        Podcast Episode 63: “Real Property Reports and Realtors.” In this Tale, our investor was right to walk away, but they will probably lose their deposit. Avoid using the same realtor for both buyer and seller. Know the difference between a Real Property Report and Title Insurance. Make sure your team members are real estate investment … Continue reading Real Rules of Real Estate: RPRS & Realtors
        9 min
      6. How to Get a Seller to Do Repairs
        Podcast Episode 62:
        “Holdbacks or Drawbacks?”

        A holdback clause can help insure that the seller takes care of a property’s deficiencies before closing. The language of this item in your purchase contract needs to be very specific in order to be effective. Some lenders, however, don’t like cash backs, holdbacks, or credits.

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        How to Get a Seller to Do Repairs:
        Holdbacks or Drawbacks?

        In a recent situation, our investors wanted to purchase a property that had shoddy renovation work done to the heating and electrical system, which included three furnaces (one in the garage). The roof also needed re-shingling. Their inspector told them what work needed to be done; they consulted with plumbing, roofing, and electrical contractors, and produced a list of deficiencies that they wanted the seller to remedy within a specific time.

        The seller said he would take care of the deficiencies and then he didn’t. Arguments ensued about what was really required and who would be the judge of whether the jobs were properly done. The two weeks given to the seller to fix the deficiencies was extended by three more two-week periods. Now we are at two months after signing the offer to purchase and still nothing done.

        Our investor had a fully approved mortgage and, in fact, the lender had funded the mortgage based on the original closing date and we had to send the mortgage money back to them. The lender is starting to ask questions. The seller throughout had been uncooperative and, to be charitable, not forthright in providing all the information on the property or the existing three tenants and their information.

        Our investor decides on a change of tactic. If the seller won’t fix the deficiencies, then let’s put a value on the deficiencies and do a repair holdback. Give the seller a little more time to do his job and then if he doesn’t, I will have the money to do it. That is our investors thinking. Nothing wrong with that, right?

        There are two major issues that come up at this point:

        Firstly, our investor needs a repair holdback clause.
        And secondly, what about the lender?

        Holdbacks are when your purchase contract requires the seller to do or fix something before closing. Maybe s/he has to do take away some junk or old car bodies or perhaps complete a renovation. No matter what the seller has to do, your contract needs:

        1. a precise description of the seller’s obligation,
        2. a time by which the obligation must be completed,
        3. a money consequence (holdback) for failure to complete the seller’s obligation, and;
        4. how and when and who controls the release of holdback.
        5. Compare the following two clauses. The first was prepared by our client’s realtor and sent to me for review. The second is my amended clause.

          Original clause:

          The seller agrees to obtain at their cost and provide to the buyer no later than seven days prior to the completion date, proper permits and certification for the heating systems and electrical systems within the property.

          Amended clause:

          The Seller Agrees to Obtain at their Cost and provide to the buyer no later than seven days prior to the completion date, all required permits for both the electrical and heating systems and components of those two systems as currently installed in the property and proof that both systems have final inspection and approval by the City of Edmonton. In the event such permits and final inspections are not provided seven days prior to the completion date, the buyer will complete the purchase and hold back $10,000 from the closing proceeds. The seller will have a further 30 days commencing on the day after the Completion Date to provide the permits and final inspections. If, after the expiry of the extra 30 days the permits and final inspections have not provided by the seller, the $10,000 holdback will be released to the buyer and the responsibility for permits and final inspections will shift to the buyer. No money will be refunded to the seller.

          The lender approved the mortgage on the basis of the original offer where the seller fixed and paid for the deficiencies. Lenders do not like cash backs, repair holdbacks, or repair credits. Experience has shown lenders that these types of monetary adjustments are often a scam and an attempt by purchasers to reduce the amount of cash they have to put into a property.

          So, lenders often take a very straightforward position. Cash backs, repair holdbacks, and repair credits are just a reduction in the purchase price. If the price is reduced then the amount of mortgage money is reduced. Lenders instruct their lawyers to watch out for these items and advise the lender if they occur.

          We did advise the lender through the mortgage broker on the file and surprisingly the lender was more lenient than most. Deficiencies were completed, paid invoices supplied, and the surplus of holdback monies returned to the lender for application against the mortgage principal. In my view this lender attitude is rare and our investor was fortunate.

          Lessons Learned:
          1. The first clause is useless because it does not contain
          2. a) a precise description,
            b) time to complete,
            c) a money consequence/defined dollar holdback, or
            d) how the money gets released if the seller’s obligation isn’t met.
            The second clause meets all four requirements.
          3. In genuine repair situations, your best bet is to have the seller actually do the work before closing. This maximizes your mortgage amount and still gets the repairs done.
          4. Heads up, lenders hate holdback clauses whether they be cash back, repair credits or repair holdbacks. Many lenders have a policy that any holdback is a reduction in the purchase price and therefore a reduction in the mortgage amount.
          5. If your real estate purchase contract needs a holdback, consult with your mortgage broker/lender and with your lawyer to make sure the holdback will be allowed and the holdback clause is properly drafted.
          6. Always best to have the seller’s obligation completed well before the closing day. Try for 14 days. You will be happier and your lender will certainly be happier.
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          8. How to Get a Seller to Do Repairs
            Podcast Episode 62: “Holdbacks or Drawbacks?” A holdback clause can help insure that the seller takes care of a property’s deficiencies before closing. The language of this item in your purchase contract needs to be very specific in order to be effective. Some lenders, however, don’t like cash backs, holdbacks, or credits. Download the audio … Continue reading How to Get a Seller to Do Repairs
            12 min
          9. Say No to Condos Less than 8 Units
            Podcast Episode 61:
            “New Homes And Subdivision.”

            Purchasing a new property before it is built is far more complex than buying an existing one. There are even more possible issues when subdividing and condominiumization are involved. Subdivision takes a long time and has many complicating factors. I don’t generally recommend small condos (i.e., less than 8 units.)

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            Say No to Condos Less than 8 Units:
            New Homes And Subdivision

            Our investor had an existing home with lots of equity. Her plan was to leverage that equity and purchase a side-by-side duplex. She would live in one half and rent out the other half with, hopefully, a legal suite in the basement.

            Her realtor found a builder who specialised in duplexes, apparently had a good reputation and who seemed to be helpful. The builder already owned a lot on which a duplex would be built, but needed to subdivide that lot into two separate titles. That subdivision was apparently in process.

            The contracts showed up in my office and were drafted to attempt to deal with the basement suite and holdbacks for finishing the suite after closing and deficiencies both seasonal and normal course. As always, the clauses that purported to give our investor comfort and security regarding the suite and deficiencies were unclear and inadequate. Those definitely had to be cleaned up.

            Timing for completion and move in had to be firmed up because our investor had to sell her existing property. She wanted to move into the duplex before selling her existing home so she needed bridge financing. Why? Because all of her cash for the new duplexes was coming from her equity in her existing property.

            As lawyer for our investor, I was also very concerned about the nature of the subdivision of the existing lot. Was the subdivision application to create a two-unit condominium corporation, which we completely disagree with, or two traditional lot, block and plan titles? And so the negotiations and discussions commenced.

            Why don’t we like small condominiums? Following is my advice to another client in similar circumstances:

            “As much as you might have been advised and are okay that this is a condo with one sewer line, there is so much more on which any buyer of a small condo should properly be advised. For instance, as discussed before, there is no such thing as an inactive condo corporation. In this situation what we really have is a condo corporation that is not paying attention to the Condominium Property Act and regulations.

            There are no:

            • appropriate bylaws,
            • guarantees of insurability (Park Insurance won’t),
            • agreements about management,
            • agreements about common property including the party wall,
            • discussions about reserve funds and reserve fund studies, which have to be done if the property is going to be sold,
            • And that’s just a small portion of what needs to be looked at and advised upon on the condominium advice side.”

              As the negotiations commenced, they were impacted by constant, inaccurate information from the builder’s realtor to our investor’s realtor, worsening her own inexperience as a brand-new, apprentice investor.

              We could not get any comfort, no matter how much we tried, that the builder was creating two separate lot, block and plan titles as opposed to a two-unit condominium. Timing for closing kept getting postponed.

              Late in the process our investor discovered that the lender would interim finance for the half duplex she was moving into but not for the rental half. It took a long time for the builder to confirm that he had applied for and had been issued permits to install a legal basement suite.

              The expected subdivision was way behind predicted timing. The seller and seller’s realtor kept insisting that the subdivision was completed and would tell our investors realtor. The seller’s lawyer and our searches at land titles revealed the subdivision was not completed. Hugely frustrating for our investor who, like most normal people, believed what she was told. She would say to me, “Barry, they say the subdivision is completed, why would they say that if it isn’t done?” I agree, why would they? But the short answer to that question is, “if the subdivision is completed then just give us a copy of the new title!” They could never do that.

              Finally, our investor had to book movers, take time off work, and move the process forward. Even with plenty of notice, on moving day, subdivision was not completed and there were yet more anxious, expensive negotiations about how to get our investor a key without actually closing. Very difficult to advise our investor to move in when we did not know about subdivision, final inspections, occupancy permits, or deficiencies.

              Lessons Learned:
              1. Overall, a new home purchase is twice as difficult as an existing home purchase. Building permits, deficiencies, warranties, timing, and occupancy permits are all over and above the issues found when buying an already built property. Even harder when there are owner-occupier and investor issues all mixed in.
              2. If a transaction needs subdivision, this is a senior strategy (at the very least Master Investor) with its whole set of other questions. One of the biggest issues is that the subdivision process is lengthy. Even when all the surveying work has been done, all the permits have been obtained, and the subdivision application has been submitted to the Land Titles Office (3-4 months to achieve), Land Titles is currently quoting 12 business days to register the subdivision. That would be approximately 17-18 days including weekends, which is a huge timing issue. Neither Title Insurance nor Western Torrens Protocol, the usual methods of closing quickly, apply in subdivision situations. Therefore, in order to actually pay the builder, registration of the new lots must occur and that takes 17-18 days.
              3. Be extremely careful when someone suggests you buy a unit or units in a small condominium (less than eight units). Re-read section above.
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              5. Say No to Condos Less than 8 Units
                Podcast Episode 61: “New Homes And Subdivision.” Purchasing a new property before it is built is far more complex than buying an existing one. There are even more possible issues when subdividing and condominiumization are involved. Subdivision takes a long time and has many complicating factors. I don’t generally recommend small condos (i.e., less than … Continue reading Say No to Condos Less than 8 Units
                6 min
              6. Rules for Getting Mortgages
                Podcast Episode 60:
                “Timing and the Lender’s Sandbox.”

                When you want a mortgage, you need to play by the lender’s rules. Be sure to disclose the facts of your application or risk losing your funding. Timing is key, so leave yourself extra room after removal of final conditions.

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                Rules for Getting Mortgages:
                Timing and the Lender’s Sandbox

                There are two things you always have to consider in any new deal. The first is timing. The second thing is to understand that if you want a mortgage, you are playing in the lender’s sandbox and you have to play by the lender’s sandbox rules.

                I had a brand new client who was really worried. He had applied for a mortgage and fudged his income figures, including a promotion he did not yet have. He also told the lender that he wanted a 5% down mortgage because he planned to move in. The lender discovered the job promotion did not take effect for a couple of months and became aware that my client-borrower intended to rent out the property. The lender quickly declined the loan.

                Now the client was into see me with a brand-new offer. His friend was going to provide the down payment but did not want to go on title or mortgage or tell anyone he was involved. The deal was written with a completion date 10 days after removal of final conditions. His realtor and mortgage broker both told him he needed to have a short closing because it is a seller’s market. There is lots of competition for properties and sellers won’t give you more than 10 days. I insisted he change the completion date (or the ‘closing date’ as it is often called) to 30 days after removal of final conditions.

                The contract also contained a clause giving the buyer a $12,000 repair credit for shingle replacement and electrical upgrade. My client-buyer was now ready to apply for his mortgage.

                Did I have any comments? You bet I did!

                Lessons Learned:
                1. Timing is so important. You have to leave yourself sufficient time to accomplish your diligence. Once your diligence is completed, you need sufficient time to close the deal. You will be pressured to set a closing date earlier than 30 days after removal of final conditions. Yeah, there might be lots of competition for the property and yeah, sellers might want to close earlier. But, resist that pressure. Set your closing day at 30 days or even 45 days after removal of final conditions. Let the seller amend the contract and tell you he needs to close sooner.
                2. Do not lie to your lender. Any inaccuracy or untruth is grounds for the lender to refuse your mortgage application, or if approved, withdraw that approval. Full disclosure is always the best policy.
                3. Lenders do not like cash-backs, repair credits, or repair holdbacks. Lenders view all these items as price reductions and they will only give you a mortgage on the reduced price. You may, and note I said may, be able to work these into your contract but they are tricky. Don’t write these in your offer to purchase without consulting your lawyer or broker/lender.
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                5. Rules for Getting Mortgages
                  Podcast Episode 60: “Timing and the Lender’s Sandbox.” When you want a mortgage, you need to play by the lender’s rules. Be sure to disclose the facts of your application or risk losing your funding. Timing is key, so leave yourself extra room after removal of final conditions. Download the audio file HERE and the … Continue reading Rules for Getting Mortgages
                  6 min
                6. Buying Long-distance Property
                  Podcast Episode 59:
                  “Travel and Tenants.”

                  Managing properties when they are far from where someone lives can be tricky. Use this fact to help you find motivated sellers. Beware that pre-possession inspections require custom clauses and you can’t just kick existing tenants out if they are a problem. When finding replacement tenants, know the difference between rent deposits and security deposits.

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                  Buying Long-distance Property:
                  Travel and Tenants

                  Our investors were pretty happy with their first two properties. Both were rented out to long-term, trouble-free tenants. Now they were starting to talk about their next property. Should they go with the tried and true strategy to buy up another single-family property or should they move on to multi-family?

                  They had mentioned to their realtor that they were considering multi-family. Next thing you know, the realtor is calling to ask, “are you still interested? I have an out-of-town owner who self-manages a 12-suite building and he is tired of the travel back and forth to manage. He wants out.” Negotiations didn’t take too long with a motivated seller and soon they had an accepted offer to purchase.

                  The closing process brought home a few lessons.

                  In the weeks before closing, they called the seller to organize a pre-possession inspection. They just wanted to make sure that the property was still in the same shape as it was when they made their offer. The seller wouldn’t allow the inspection.

                  The seller did allow them to interview new tenants for the single vacancy. They took 10 applications, picked the best one, and took a one-month security deposit when signing the lease, with the move-in date 15 days away. The tenant changed his mind and demanded return of his security deposit. Our investors didn’t want to give it back. A deposit is a deposit, right? It’s good faith money, why should they have to give it back?

                  Although there was only one vacancy, there were a couple of problem tenants who had to go. One of our investor’s fathers was helping out. His advice, “just kick them out with 30 days’ notice,” was problematic.

                   

                  Lessons Learned:
                  1. Long distance self-management is tough without the proper training. Find a way to locate out-of-town owners. Realtors, property managers and title searches are all possibilities. There is a good chance their approach is leaving them frustrated and motivated to sell.
                  2. Standard Multiple Listing Service (MLS) contracts have no right to a pre-possession inspection. It is a very difficult clause to negotiate. If you think you need an inspection, call your knowledgeable investment lawyer about the exact wording that your inspection clause requires. Every situation is different; you need custom clauses to protect yourself.
                  3. Our investor’s father was wrong. You can’t just kick the tenant out. There must be grounds under the Residential Tenancies Act or the Regulations to the Act. Learn the Act and the Regulations to give yourself better management control.
                  4. When taking any deposit from the tenant, make sure it’s a rent deposit not a security deposit. If the tenant doesn’t move in you can forfeit their rent deposit but not a security deposit.
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                  About Tales from the Trenches

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                  Podcast featuring stories of real estate landmines—and how to avoid them. Coming to you from the desk of veteran Canadian lawyer Barry McGuire.