Talk Therapy

Taking stock of the positive feedback they've received on the last few episodes, which have taken raw, unfiltered looks and the bumps and peaks in their working dynamic, Dan and Nathan look to continue their trend of examining what's worked, what hasn't, and how far they've come as collaborators and cofounders. Topics include: judging how bad the low points of your working relationship actually are, why it's crucial to track your disagreements until you found their actual roots, and what truly letting go of your ownership over a project looks like.

Hot off the latest all-hands meeting, (or "Every One," in company parlance), Dan and Nathan reflect on the beauty of having created a space to talk shop and share visions with some of their favorite minds, why Acceptance and Commitment therapy has a lot of relevance for companies, and what the balance is between the individual and the collective at Every publications.

This one goes deep. Recalling their first days working together, Dan and Nathan discuss the ways their relationship has evolved over the past year. To be honest it started out rough. In this episode, they talk about what that was like and how it changed over the first year of the business to be something they're both proud of.

Dan and Nathan welcome Taylor Majewski to the podcast on the inaugural week of her brand new Every newsletter, Glassy. A weekly study of technology through the lens of gender, Glassy will see Taylor digging into the themes that have guided her career thus far. She sat down to talk about how tech and gender came to sit at the center of her work, why Every is the best place for her to write about these topics, and why founders shouldn't be defensive or shy away from difficult conversations.

Co-founder relationships require respect, but what happens when one co-founder falls down on the job? How do you manage around it without losing respect for each other? More importantly, how can you accept your own shortcomings without losing respect for yourself? It’s something that Dan and Nathan have struggled with before, and in this episode they take an unfiltered, clear-eyed look at the the role respect plays in their relationship—and the times they’ve both felt small in each other’s eyes. They talk about Dan’s embarrassment over his inattention to small details, and Nathan’s fear about being able to manage many projects at once. Though they each deal with a different set of insecurities they find that, when they dig down to the root, their fears aren’t so different after all.

Returning from a weeklong vacation, Nathan fills Dan in on the thinking he's been doing about burnout and its causes. They discuss how to temper (or lean into) inspiration when reading something exciting, dealing with the transitional phase between rest and work, and why we make it so hard for ourselves to start new projects.

It's Nathan's turn to take a break. After going over his plans with for a week of relaxing and cooking, he and Dan open up about why it can be hard to turn your productivity brain off during time away from the proverbial desk, and why workplaces should build structured time off into their workflows more frequently.

Using a current work in progress—the exit survey page for departing subscribers—as an example of their differing communication styles, Dan and Nathan explore the benefits of having unique skillsets and thought processes. Listen through to learn why cofounders should strive to be more like the Spanish national soccer team.

Nathan and Dan discuss their differing approaches to writing, and wonder how they can manage to still be effective sounding boards for each other. Taking specific examples from their respective experiences writing and critiquing each other's work earlier in their working relationship, they end up exploring the process of starting a piece of work.

Returning from a well-earned week off, Dan takes Nathan through his return to Superorganizers: a look at My First Million cohost Shaan Puri's approach to personal growth. Topics include which types of goals we should consider genuinely accomplishable, how to be a healthy 'splainer, and why you sometimes need to write about what you want to do with your life until you cry.