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  • Peter J. Wolf, Best Friends Animal Society’s cat initiatives analyst
    Peter J. Wolf—who works for Best Friends Animal Society as cat initiatives analyst, which involves helping the organization shape its community cat policies, and has overseen some of its national cat programs—starts the conversation by answering the almost-inevitable question: How did he move from holding an undergraduate degree in mechanical engineering, and a master’s degree in industrial design, to becoming a community cat expert? Wolf traces that unlikely path, noting that he grew up in a family where cats were not allowed in the home (though strays were tolerated, if not embraced), but leaving home for college began an extended period of making up for lost time, living with as many as 10 cats as he spent a dozen years working in the automotive industry, switching gears and going to grad school in Arizona, then started teaching, using those summers off to volunteer for various organizations, including Best Friends. Wolf recalls a pivotal experience, helping with a massive hoarding case in Nevada, involving 1000 cats. Another vital episode in Wolf’s narrative, he notes, was seeing an article about feral cats that he thought contained some erroneous information, conducted research and determined it was erroneous, wrote and submitted a rebuttal—which this journal rejected. It’s a fairly straight line from that occurrence to Wolf launching—in April of 2010–Vox Felina, a blog featuring his entries offering observations and analysis of a wide assortment of issues related to community cats, very much including Trap, Neuter, and Return (TNR). Vox Felina is not only still a going concern, but a nationally important and influential voice in the realm of feral cats. That’s because—in keeping with his academic background—Vox Felina is propelled by science and research and analysis, elements often missing from discussions and debates about community cats. Indeed, feral cats can be a polarizing topic, with a commonly-voiced concern is the impact on birds, while a another is the influence on other wildlife, but Wolf says it’s often hard to reconcile the statistics and research cited by these feral cat detractors. He fields listener calls and emails about ferals, colonies with diminishing numbers of cats (and in some cases, diminishing numbers of colonies), TNR and trapping, and more. (https://bestfriends.org, http://www.voxfelina.com)
    ALSO: I spoke briefly with Helen Freund, Food and Dining Critic at the Tampa Bay Times, who wrote a big, deeply-reported piece (published in print that day; online days earlier), charting the dramatic increase in the embrace of vegan food in the Tampa Bay Area, at restaurants and other eateries, grocery stores, food festivals and elsewhere. Freund recalls being struck by the vegan scene in Tampa when she moved there two years ago from New Orleans—a stupendous food city, but not a stand-out in plant-based offerings, she notes—and saw evidence of an even more vibrant, growing trend since she’s lived here. This constituted the jumping off point for her story, she explains, and she does weigh in on three vegan restaurants she particularly enjoyed in the course of reporting the piece: https://www.tampabay.com/life-culture/food/2021/04/08/tampa-bay-is-experiencing-a-vegan-renaissance/
    COMEDY CORNER:  Julio Torres “I Am Vegan” (https://spaceprincejulio.tumblr.com)
    MUSIC: Rebekah Pulley’s “Talking Animals Theme,” instrumentals
    NAME THAT ANIMAL TUNE: We didn’t play “Name That Animal Tune” today.
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  • Dr. Justin Perrault, Director of Research at Loggerhead Marinelife Center
    Dr. Justin Perrault—Director of Research at Loggerhead Marinelife Center, a nonprofit sea turtle research, rehabilitation, education, and conservation center, located in Juno, Florida—recalls growing up a landlocked kid in Memphis, Tennessee whose first exposure to a sea turtle came during a family trip to Mexico when he was 12. This serendipitous encounter spurred a profound connection with sea turtles, fastened to another, subsequent serendipitous development involving, he acknowledges, misplaying his grad school application process, and ended up attending Florida Atlantic University, which happened to have a specialty in…sea turtles. Perrault addresses what he likes about sea turtles, what attributes of theirs he finds most intriguing. Perrault provides an overview of the history and evolution of Loggerhead Marinelife Center, dating back to the late 70s/early 80s when Eleanor Fletcher who was struck by the large number of sea turtles nesting on the shore of Juno Beach, began doing the very beginnings research and the formative stages of the education programs that have become a signature element of Loggerhead. (She was later dubbed “The Turtle Lady.”) Perrault points out the Center underwent a major expansion in 2007, and is in the midst of yet another expansion currently. So even now, the facility includes a research lab, an animal hospital (a Live TurtleCam allows you to observe one of the patients; that morning, the patient was Little T.), exhibits, tanks and aquariums. He mentions that one by-product of the present expansion will be a larger, more versatile hospital, equipped to treat more patients and more maladies, as something of a postscript to describing what ailments or injuries are most commonly responsible for bringing turtles in for care.  He outlines some elements of his research, which this time of year—nesting season—involves wee-hours treks to look for, or at, nests, often noting what’s in the nests and, sometimes, what’s indicated in the tags affixed to them. (Photos Courtesy of Loggerhead Marinelife Center) (https://marinelife.org, https://www.facebook.com/loggerheadmarinelifecenter/ https://www.instagram.com/loggerheadmarinelifecenter/)
    ALSO: I spoke briefly with Karen Windsor, executive director of Foster Parrots (part of The New England Exotic Wildlife Sanctuary), a Rhode Island facility that, on April 1, experienced a major fire roaring through a section where some of the birds were housed, killing more than 80 of them. Obviously, this was a devastating tragedy, and I invited Karen on the program to see how people might help her and her Foster Parrot colleagues rebuild and rebound. First, though, she provided an overview of the sanctuary and its mission, noting their “animals don’t belong in captivity” credo, and the challenges posed by having parrots as pets, exacerbated by the bird industry that tends to obscure or slant the crucial information that prospective bird buyers would find helpful (the birds’ repetitive screaming, other striking behaviors, like pulling its feathers out, their notable longevity–they can live 60 or more years, etc). We discussed that the most fundamental need Foster Parrots has in the wake of the fire is “funding,” Windsor explained—more so than supplies or other resources—and that monetary donations can be made via their website: https://www.fosterparrots.com/support-us-page
    COMEDY CORNER:  Paula Poundstone’s “Cats Puff Up” (https://paulapoundstone.com)
    MUSIC: Rebekah Pulley’s “Talking Animals Theme,” instrumentals
    NAME THAT ANIMAL TUNE: We didn’t play “Name That Animal Tune” today.
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  • Carlton Ward, Jr., conservationist and photographer
    Carlton Ward, Jr.—a Florida native, conservationist, and celebrated photographer whose striking photos of the Florida Panther are featured in the April edition of National Geographic—recalls how growing up in Florida first spurred his love of nature and wildlife. He adds that this love evolved into a deeper, more philosophical and complex affection through college studies in such courses as biology and anthropology. And while he notes that, as a kid, he played around with his Dad’s camera here and there, Ward explains that his true foray into photography unfolded while he was studying abroad in Australia. Later, he observes, more globetrotting—including making seven trips to Gabon, with scientists, under the auspices of the Smithsonian Institution—proved pivotal to his growth as a photographer. And may have helped galvanize his growing inclination toward becoming a conservationist, a role he acknowledges he values more highly than that of photographer, particularly in his advocacy of Florida fauna, protecting habitats, and resisting development that invades or destroys those habitats. Increasingly in recent years, those concerns have intersected at Ward’s passion for—and desire to protect–the Florida Panther. In discussing the new National Geographic piece, written by Douglas Main–which carried the title “Return of the Florida Panther”–despite this rosy headline, and the reported rebound in the cats’ population (Ward reminds us that there were about 20 Panthers in the 1970s, and there’s now thought to be 200), he agrees that the article ultimately constitutes a cautionary tale. Ward briefly describes a few techniques he employed in capturing some of the story’s images—including the shot featuring four Panthers—revealing he spent anywhere from two to five years making those pictures. There was more to the conversation, including Ward responding to an array of listener calls and emails. [Photo credits–Florida Panthers: Carlton Ward., Jr/National Geographic…Ward: Malia Byrus] (https://www.carltonward.com, https://www.facebook.com/CarltonWard/, https://www.instagram.com/carltonward/, https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/issue/april-2021)
    ALSO: I spoke briefly with Dr. Bryan Franks, assistant professor of biology & marine science at Jacksonville University, and member of the science advisory committee at Ocearch, an organization devoted to assisting scientists collect data in the ocean, including tagging and tracking great white sharks. I asked Franks to address a particular shark, Edithe, who had made headlines recently in the Tampa area by turning up in waters there, given that Ocearch had first tagged her in (in October) in Nova Scotia, representing a trek of some 3000 miles. Franks explained some of what Edithe’s journey—extensive, but not unprecedented, he said—tells us, and the implications in terms of feeding and other behaviors, predicting that it won’t be long before she starts heading back, arriving in the Nova Scotia area by September or October. [Photo of Edithe: Ocearch] (https://www.ocearch.org)
    COMEDY CORNER:  Mark Forward’s “Don’t Feed The Wildlife” (portion) (https://www.markforward.com)
    MUSIC: Rebekah Pulley’s “Talking Animals Theme,” instrumentals
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  • Caitlin O’Connell, author of “Wild Rituals: 10 Lessons Animals Can Teach Us about Connection, Community, and Ourselves”
    Caitlin O’Connell—a noted scientist who’s spent much of her career studying elephants and their communication, and author of several books, most recently “Wild Rituals: 10 Lessons Animals Can Teach Us about Connection, Community, and Ourselves”—addresses some of her varied professional pursuits, including a NASA project that involved the Space Station, that had prompted me, tongue partly in cheek, to dub her “a Renaissance Woman.” O’Connell explains that the NASA endeavor represented something of a detour from her work with elephants, which recently has focused on the animals’ middle ear and how bone conduction may have implications for human hearing aids. She also recounts another professional pursuit that partly accounted for the “Renaissance Woman” tag—that, in addition to writing a number of books that are highly serious, research-oriented (she’s taught scientific writing), she’s penned fiction: novels that are set in the bush, and draw on her many years living and studying in Africa…still, kind of unusual for a PhD scientist with ties to Harvard and Stanford.  She discusses the impetus for writing her latest book, “Wild Rituals,” while noting that the pandemic has wrought major changes to many of the 10 types of rituals she highlights in the book—to Grieving most of all; Covid-19 has generated a staggering number of deaths, so a lot more grieving, as well as altering the kind of grieving—people haven’t been able to attend conventional funerals or other services. In this portion of the conversation, O’Connell observes that, pandemic notwithstanding, many of us are not adept at grieving, citing as lessons we can take amidst the animal world examples from “Wild Rituals,” of how some captive elephants and wild zebras mourned the loss of a family member. She adds that other important rituals emphasized in the book have also been notably altered by the pandemic, including Courtship Rituals, Play Rituals, and Rituals of Travel & Migration. O’Connell also fields some intriguing questions and reflections from callers.  (https://www.caitlineoconnell.com, https://www.facebook.com/caitlineoconnell/, https://www.instagram.com/elephant_skinny/)
    ALSO: I spoke briefly with Aubry Walch, co-founder with her brother, Kale, of The Herbivorous Butcher, the country’s first vegan butcher shop. This Minneapolis-based business has been flourishing during the pandemic (they ship their food anywhere in the U.S.), and in a classic David & Goliath confrontation, the Walch siblings vanquished no less a corporate behemoth than Nestle, which had sought to trademark phrases that included the words “vegan butcher.” Walch also elaborated on the recent announcement that they’re launching a new enterprise, Herbie Butcher’s Fried Chicken, which will serve vegan fried chicken and all the plant-based fixings. She also noted they intend to open multiple locations of Herbie Butcher’s, extending their reach to other states, and at some point, their plans include starting additional casual dining outlets offering other vegan fare. (https://www.theherbivorousbutcher.com, https://www.facebook.com/theherbivorousbutcher, https://www.instagram.com/theherbivorousb/)
    COMEDY CORNER:  Paul F. Tompkins’ “Alternative Pets” (https://paulftompkins.com)
    MUSIC: Rebekah Pulley’s “Talking Animals Theme,” instrumentals
    NAME THAT ANIMAL TUNE: We didn’t play “Name That Animal Tune” today.
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  • Elizabeth Lo, Director of (who also produced, filmed & edited) “Stray”
    Elizabeth Lo—an award-winning filmmaker who directed “Stray,” a wildly-inventive documentary about the stray dogs who roam freely in Turkey (by law, no one there may hold captive or euthanize a stray dog)—discusses her lifelong love of dogs, spurred by her childhood dog, Mikey; “Stray”’s end credits note the film is “In memory of Mikey.” Lo explains that her initial plan for “Stray” was visiting multiple countries to document, and contrast, how they each treated stray dogs. But by first landing in Turkey, with its law protecting strays, the attendant cultural leaning—citizens tend to reflect true concern for the dogs, feeding them and otherwise looking after them—and by meeting Zeytin, Lo recognized the entire film should be made there. She describes some of the traits and behaviors that made Zeytin her movie’s pup-protagonist. From merely knowing Zeytin from the movie, it’s not hard to see why she emerged as its star: she’s highly charismatic, even by dog standards, she has enormously expressive eyes, she seems whip smart as she navigates through Istanbul rush-hour traffic and other day-to-day challenges. She appears to always know exactly what she’s doing, and what others are doing—for example, Lo tells a story about, while editing the film, spotting Zeytin giving her a previously unseen, knowing wink while the dog had seemed to be in a precarious position. Lo talks about how Zeytin’s two canine co-stars, Nazar and Kartal, came to occupy those roles, and addresses the ethical dilemma she faced around Kartal, a sweet puppy who was dognapped, and whether to intervene; the police ended up intervening. She offers observations about the trio of homeless, somewhat nomadic Syrian refugee boys, and how their storyline parallels (they’re strays, too), then intersects that of our pup trio: they obviously feel a real kinship with the dogs, and even though they’re squatting in local buildings, Lo says they somehow had the resources to get the dogs veterinary care. The final portion of the conversation includes a discussion about the notion of whether Zeytin would want to be adopted—using as a jumping off point comments on the “Stray” Instagram page that, while kindhearted, suggested a serious misunderstanding of the film)—and my asserting that Zeytin’s feelings may echo that of the Frances McDormand character, Fern, in “Nomadland”: She likes her solo life just fine, thanks, and would not be inclined to change it.“Stray is available everywhere March 5.”  (https://www.straymovie.com, https://www.instagram.com/straydocfilm/)
    ALSO: I spoke briefly with Amanda Wight, Program Manager of Wildlife Protection for the Humane Society of the United States, who provided information and analysis about the horrific situation that happened in Wisconsin last week, when trophy hunters killed nearly twice the sanctioned number of wolves in just under 60 hours—when officials halted the wolf hunt. Wight addressed the repercussions and implications of this fiasco, lessons we can learn from it, and methods to voice our displeasure, and outrage, to Wisconsin and Great Lakes lawmakers, and the Department of Tourism. (https://www.humanesociety.org)
    COMEDY CORNER:  Jim Gaffigan’s “I Rescued A Dog”–within the piece “A Good Dad.” (https://www.jimgaffigan.com)
    MUSIC: Rebekah Pulley’s “Talking Animals Theme,” instrumentals
    NAME THAT ANIMAL TUNE: The Rolling Stones’ “Beast of Burden”
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  • Ginny Sweet, co-founder of Corsos for Heroes
    Ginny Sweet—co-founder (with Harry Toro) of Corsos for Heroes, an organization based in Lutz, Florida, that donates specially-trained service dogs, of the Cane Corso breed, to military veterans who are contending with one or more disabilities—describes some of the members of her military family. This includes her Dad being a WWII veteran, noting that back then what we now label PTSD was then called “shell shock,” and she provides details about the military family of her co-founder Harry Toro. Sweet notes how that familial perspective, coupled with a number of years of experience both she and Toro had as dog breeders—and having recently become acquainted with, and impressed by, Cane Corsos– created something of a lightbulb moment, prompting the pair to launch Corsos for Heroes. Sweet recounts placing their first Corso with a veteran, and how things proceeded from there. Given that word has spread fast and there are far more veterans in need than available Corsos—and that the dogs are trained to reflect and respond to the specific needs of that individual veteran–she also outlines the criteria by which veterans are selected to be awarded a Corso. And those selected do receive their trained dog at no cost, Sweet says, noting that they’ve provided 10 dogs thus far since founding the organization, with two more to be offered at a big then-forthcoming (Feb. 28) event, slated to be held at Harley-Davidson of Brandon. Sweet adds that she and Toro have longer-term aspirations that include presenting Corsos to 40-50 veterans each year, and operating their own, in-house training facility, whereas some of the Corsos for Heroes thus far have been trained in various location, even in other states. (https://www.corsosforheroes.com, https://www.facebook.com/Corsos4Heroes/)
     
    ALSO: I spoke briefly with Gretchen Primack, a writer, poet, and animal activist who, several years ago, poured her passion—and compassion—for animals into a collection of poetry, called “Kind.” (We discussed that original edition of “Kind” in a full-length interview on “Talking Animals,” almost exactly seven years prior: Feb. 26, 2014.) “Kind” has now been republished, in hardcover, bearing other changes and additions, Primack explained, including a new cover design, additional artwork inside, and 10—count ‘em!–new poems. She outlines the main methods for buying the new version of “Kind,” starting with ordering from her website (http://gretchenprimack.com), noting she’ll sign books purchased there, and add an inscription if asked; another recommended method for buying “Kind” is via https://bookshop.org, kind of an indie Amazon (if that’s not too egregious a contradiction in terms). We end our short chat with Primack reading one of her new Kind poems: “Covid I.”
    COMEDY CORNER:  Mike Feeney’s “Service Dogs Are A Miracle” (https://www.mikefeeneycomedy.com)
    MUSIC: Rebekah Pulley’s “Talking Animals Theme,” instrumentals
    NAME THAT ANIMAL TUNE: Genesis’s “The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway”
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  • Kim Sturla, executive director of Animal Place
    Kim Sturla—executive director of Animal Place, the 600-acre farmed animal sanctuary in Grass Valley, California she co-founded in 1989—recounts that she had been employed by a local humane society for some time before launching Animal Place, having already spent a number of years “working with and for animals.” Sturla describes how the passion and zeal to create this sanctuary propelled her and co-founder Ned Buyukmihci (a veterinary ophthalmologist and professor at UC Davis) to sell their homes and work tirelessly, while still holding down day jobs, to realize their vision. She provides the lowdown on a few of the 400 or so animals now living at Animal Place, including recent arrivals Babe and Honey, two elderly cows whose human could no longer care for them when she herself had to enter assisted care; a goat named Vincent, who had been mauled by an undetermined animal; and ten as-yet-unnamed bummer lambs–ones who are twins or triplets, but abandoned by their mothers. Sturla talks about being regularly asked to take in animals, sometimes just two or three, other times in much larger numbers, which dovetails with a discussion of Animal Place’s Rescue and Adoption Center, a 12-acre satellite location in Petaluma, California. Unlike most sanctuaries, Animal Place does regularly adopt out animals it rescues—under strict protocols for the adopters–often large numbers of chickens that have resulted from raids or hoarding cases. Sturla addresses Covid-19’s significant impact on Animal Place, not only many staffers having to work remotely, but also being forced to suspend its volunteer program, tours, and other onsite activities—but notes that a few of the ways the operation has adapted have proven effective enough that they’re likely to retain some when the pandemic is in the rear view mirror. One of those notable successes was its Farmed Animal Conference E-Summit (FACES), an all-online, multi-day symposium held last July, and she says this year’s edition is scheduled to take place Aug. 2-8. FACES is free to attend, though you are asked to register for the event. (http://animalplace.org, https://www.facebook.com/animalplace, https://www.instagram.com/_animalplace/)
     
    ALSO: I spoke briefly with Dr. Mike Heithaus, professor of biology at Florida International University, whom I’d invited to put in perspective the magical scene in St. Petersburg a few days prior, when nearly 200 manatees were lounging around—joined by a group of dolphins, playfully zipping in and out of their larger, more subdued counterparts. And he did offer observations on that singular sight. Additionally, because during this interview he was en route to field work he’s pursuing on alligators and bull sharks—and how those two species interact, he described that research, and some of the key findings and implications of it. (https://mikeheithaus.com)
    COMEDY CORNER:  The Trailer Park Boys’  “The Kittyman Sea Shanty” (https://www.facebook.com/trailerparkboys/)
    MUSIC: Rebekah Pulley’s “Talking Animals Theme,” instrumentals
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  • Rob Chaney, author of “The Grizzly in the Driveway: The Return of Bears To A Crowded American West”
    Rob Chaney—a lifelong resident of Montana, a veteran reporter for the Missoulian (and 2020 Nieman Fellow), and author of “The Grizzly in the Driveway: The Return of Bears To A Crowded American West”—discusses the impetus for writing the book, agreeing with the assessment that, at times, it reads like more of a mission. Chaney explains what he means in one of the book’s initial sentences, when he writes “Two kinds of grizzlies roam the world.”  Using this sort of duality as a jumping off point, Chaney addresses my observation that one theme of the book involves the various—and, in some cases, decidedly different—ways that people, groups, organizations, experts and others, view grizzly bears and how they should be treated. A core element of “The Grizzly in the Driveway” is the animal being placed under protection of the Endangered Species Act, and the longstanding implications of that decision: Chaney talks about that action, including why an animal typically gets added to that list, and a few of the significant things it means for the grizzly story—especially relative to a motif of the book exploring, from the standpoint of many of those factions, the likely outcomes of grizzlies being removed from the ESA protection, or “delisted.” He also speaks to the striking—what some may deem downright surprising—importance of mountain bikes to the discussion of grizzlies—and to the broader calculus of what to do about them, so as to minimize grizzly-human encounters. Too, Chaney notes how the spiritual beliefs about grizzlies amidst Native American cultures can constitute conflicts with how officials intervene when the bears, say, become too habituated to humans—or otherwise end up in the driveway. [Grizzly photo: Courtesy Montana Fish, Wildlife, and Parks Department]   (https://uwapress.uw.edu/book/9780295747934/the-grizzly-in-the-driveway/, https://missoulian.com/users/profile/robchaney/)
    ALSO: I spoke briefly with Emily Minor, who has dedicated herself to fostering kittens for the Peggy Adams Animal Rescue League in West Palm Beach. She recounts deciding to step into the realm of fostering baby cats (“I needed more joy in my life”), the challenges involved—including a distinct lack of enthusiasm from the resident cat, Ray Allen–and the joys of caring for kittens, three or four at a time, before they reach their two-pound weight, at which point they’re eligible to be adopted out. All this, and completely untouched by any instances of a “foster fail,” so far not tempted, she explains, to give one of these temporary boarders permanent status, mindful that doing so would constrict her future fostering capabilities. (https://www.peggyadams.org)
     
    COMEDY CORNER:  Brian Regan’s “Flipper & Gentle Ben” (portion) (https://brianregan.com)
    MUSIC: Rebekah Pulley’s “Talking Animals Theme,” instrumentals
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  • Trish McMillan, noted animal behaviorist
    Trish McMillan—an extensively educated, highly experienced behaviorist with a long, varied resume involving training and otherwise helping animals shape (or re-shape) their behavior—recalls growing up loving animals, feeling a kinship with them, both as a kid in her family and, later, training and showing horses. While animals were clearly a lifelong passion, she describes her circuitous academic and professional path to work as a behaviorist, including attending art school, and, afterwards, eking out a living. But then she managed to talk her way into The University of Exeter, in England, where she earned a master’s degree in Animal Behavior. (She is also a Certified Professional Dog Trainer, a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant, and an Associate Certified Cat Behavior Consultant.) McMillan outlines some of the most common behavioral challenges in dogs, and how best to address them. She also talks a bit about cat training, how it differs fundamentally from dog training, how effective a clicker (or making the sound of a clicker) can be, and how cat training is most often employed to mitigate litter box issues. McMillan spent a sizable chunk of time discussing the complex and controversial topic–behavioral euthanasia: defining it, how animal lovers who have a deeply troubled animal—often, a dangerously aggressive one—inevitably feel there must always be one more option to try, recounting her own experience with such a dog and eventually recognizing there actually wasn’t one more option. As a measure of how powerful this situation is, and how much more common it is than many might think, McMillan recalls how she and fellow trainer Sue Alexander decided to create “Losing Lulu,” a support group for people who have lost animals, of all species, to their own behavior—in just two years, the group has swelled to 9000 members. She offers her suggestions for looking for a trainer &/or behaviorist to help with an animal’s behavioral issues.  (https://trishmcmillan.com, https://www.facebook.com/McMillanAnimalBehavior, https://www.facebook.com/teothepitbull, https://www.instagram.com/pibbling/)
    ALSO: I spoke briefly with Jennifer Kanady, who has led, or consulted, on campaigns to pass anti-tethering laws that prevent people from leaving their dogs chained or otherwise tied up outside. She discussed the challenges in passing these laws, including the resistance of some dog owners, and why. Owing partly to the efforts of the League of Humane Voters—Florida, the state of Florida now has anti-tethering bills pending in both the House (HB 177) and the Senate (SB 650), and Kanady suggests steps people can take to help advance these bills. (http://lohv-fl.org)
    COMEDY CORNER:  Steven Wright’s “Dog Stay”  (http://www.stevenwright.com)
    MUSIC: Rebekah Pulley’s “Talking Animals Theme,” instrumentals
    NAME THAT ANIMAL TUNE: We didn’t play “Name That Animal Tune” today.
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  • Sam Anderson, author of The New York Times Magazine story, “The Last Two Northern White Rhinos On Earth”
    Sam Anderson—a staff writer for The New York Times Magazine, whose latest piece (the cover story) is “The Last Two Northern White Rhinos On Earth,” an account of the week Anderson spent in Kenya with the only two Northern white rhinos still alive: Najin, and her daughter, Fatu, though the story is about much more than that—discusses the genesis of the article, deciding to write a profile of sorts on the two remaining animals of a species nearing extinction. In explaining that decision, Anderson addresses why he and others find rhinos so compelling—why there tends to be major articles like his, documentary films, and other coverage of this animal’s plight, while other critters are similarly moving toward extinction, like the vaquita, a small porpoise that Anderson mentions in his story, but rarely draws media attention. Anderson recounts the first day meeting Najin and Fatu—referred to, universally, as “the girls”—noting he was instantly smitten, spending as much time with them as possible, every day. He also recalls the thrill of, at the invitation of one of the rhinos’ caretakers, JoJo, helping give Najin her daily “scratches.” Anderson describes how, given the powerful, profound experience he had over the course of that week in Kenya, he contended with fear that he might struggle to fully capture the experience in his piece; he worked on the story for a year, he says. Probably well worth it: Of the nearly 400 readers who commented online about the article before they turned off comments, a huge number mentioned being moved to tears, all raved about the piece (“This story should be nominated for a Pulitzer,” enthused one), and—having been posted online on Jan. 6, the day of the insurrection—the story, the comments also make clear, functioned as a tonic for crushed souls and broken hearts in the wake of that day’s horrific events. (It should be said that Jack Davison’s assemblage of striking black and white photos represented no less a factor in the story’s potent impact.) Anderson also talks about the way reporting and writing the story changed him. Photo credits–top: Sam Anderson; rhinos napping: Joseph Wachira; black and white: Jack Davison for The New York Times  (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/magazine/the-last-two-northern-white-rhinos-on-earth.html, https://www.shamblanderson.com, https://www.instagram.com/shamblanderson/)
     
    ALSO: I spoke briefly with H. H. German, the founder of Sigma Comics, and the writer-creator of “Calico,” what may be the first comic-book hero dedicated to fighting animal abuse. German explains the impetus for creating “Calico” and the time he spent devising the character and story lines. “Here Comes Calico,” the first of what German expects will be an eight-issue series, was recently published, and let’s just say you don’t want to mistreat animals on Calico’s watch. (https://sigmacomics.com, https://www.instagram.com/sigma_comics/)
     
    COMEDY CORNER:  Dave Attell’s “Pets”  (http://daveattell.com)
    MUSIC: Rebekah Pulley’s “Talking Animals Theme,” instrumentals
    NAME THAT ANIMAL TUNE: Adrian Belew’s “The Lone Rhinoceros”
     
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