A NOTE FROM TALKING ISH
During this episode, our conversation took a turn into LGBTQ+ issues and transgender participation in sports. Some opinions and claims expressed during that discussion were based on misunderstandings and information that we recognize may not accurately represent the experiences of transgender people or the available evidence.
We're leaving the conversation in the episode because Cero Filtros means allowing honest conversations to happen—even when those conversations reveal that we have more to learn. But being unfiltered doesn't mean being unwilling to admit we don't know enough.
There was no malice behind the discussion, but good intentions don't make misinformation accurate.
The truth is, we're severely underqualified to speak authoritatively about many of these issues. Rather than pretend otherwise, we're going to dedicate our next episode to learning more. We'll revisit what was said, look at the evidence, challenge some of our own assumptions, and hopefully bring in someone better qualified to help us understand perspectives and experiences we don't personally share.
We don't expect to agree on everything. That's never been what Talking Ish is about.
But we do expect ourselves to be willing to listen, learn, and change our minds when the facts give us a reason to.
Cero filtros doesn't mean cero accountability.
This week, Talking Ish gets a little heavier than usual.
Pepe opens the episode after losing his uncle last week, while Bert is dealing with the loss of both an uncle and a friend on the same day. That leads the guys into a conversation that probably doesn't happen between men often enough: taking care of ourselves.
Listen to your body. Go to the doctor. Get the screenings. Ask the uncomfortable questions. Stop convincing yourself that ignoring something will somehow make it disappear.
And no, Raúl, a limpia con huevo, a sobador, three Hail Marys and whatever your neighborhood curandera recommends do not count as preventative healthcare.
From there, the conversation turns toward women in sports after some Mexican podcasters caught backlash for comments suggesting female fútbol players belong in the kitchen or could make more money working at a table dance. The guys talk equality, respect, opportunity, and why women's sports deserve to be taken seriously.
Then...
Things got complicated.
The conversation shifts toward transgender women in sports, LGBTQ+ issues, gender identity and sexuality. Strong opinions were shared, assumptions made, and along the way it became clear that this is a conversation that deserves more knowledge, context and care than we were prepared to give it.
Right in the middle of that conversation, Pepe's internet decided it had heard enough and briefly left the building.
By the time everyone was reconnected, the conversation had moved on, but we knew we couldn't.
We're leaving the conversation intact. Not because everything said was correct, and not because we all necessarily agree, but because pretending it never happened wouldn't accomplish anything either.
Talking Ish has always been a place where we can speak openly, disagree, talk shit, get things wrong and challenge one another. This time, listening back made us realize there are things we need to challenge ourselves on too.
We're not washing our hands of the conversation. We're continuing it.
Next episode, we're coming back better prepared. We'll look at what the evidence actually says, separate fact from assumption, ask questions we should have asked before giving answers, and hopefully bring someone with knowledge and lived experience that the three of us don't have.
We may still disagree after. That's okay.
The goal isn't to think the same way.
The goal is to make sure that when we disagree, we're disagreeing about the facts—and not something we assumed was true.
Sometimes the lesson isn't having the right answer, it's realizing you need to ask better questions.
Dos idiomas. Cero filtros. Siempre aprendiendo.
