How can an ordinary backyard become a place of learning? In this episode of Talking Taiao Sophie sits down with Cath Stabb, Sustainable Trails Coordinator, to explore the lessons our māra (gardens) can teach us, from growing kai and nurturing tamariki to building climate resilience. We’ll also look ahead to the Taranaki Sustainable Trails 31 October - 16 November 2025, with kid-friendly activities, community and school gardens, and free seeds to inspire whānau to learn, grow, and play in the taiao. www.sustainablebackyards.org.nz