We know we just talked about supply chain attacks and SolarWinds last week, but it’s still all anyone in security is talking about. Joe Marshall joins the show this time to approach the SolarWinds breach from an internet-of-things and operational security perspective. He recently co-wrote a blog for Cisco detailing how outsourcing OT over the past few years has made the SolarWinds compromise worse. Joe, a lifelong researcher and security practitioner in the OT and infrastructure space, discusses what we still don’t know about this attack, what you should do if you think you may be affected, and how we can learn from this going forward. For more on Talos’ coverage and defense against the SolarWinds campaign, check out our blog post here.