Leaping water, as is the meaning of Talulah's name, isn't far from the truth.
Clear, conscious and fiercely engaged, Lula walks us through why she's thinking leaders are more important than bosses, what it looks like in her imagination and what it felt like to get 10 barrels in Melbourne last year. 

Lovely few chats on our front deck this week.

Listen where ya listen.

Cover pic by master, Phil Gallagher.