We talk with Jordan Lewis, Tina Ellsworth, and Ovie Oghenejobo about the measurements and accountability needed to accelerate progress in the completion of the American Civil Rights movement.  We identify and discuss areas where people try to placate rather than address the issues and policies tied to systemic racism.  If you would like to get in touch with our pane or give comments or feedback, our twitter addresses are Brett Coffman @brettcoffman, Jordan Lewis @stephon_jordan, Tina Ellsworth @DrTinaEllsworth, and Ovie Oghenejobo @MrOghenejobo.  

Welcome to another episode of Conversations about Race; with me once again are Ovie Oghenejobo, Jordan Lewis, and Tina Ellsworth.  In this episode we discuss a few of the many examples of systemic racism that one might not have realized was out there.  Many of these examples can be seen as well-intentioned but, upon close examination, hide a more insidious effect on the people they were meant to protect.  You can contact any of the panel by direct message on Twitter at: @brettcoffman, @MrOghenejobo, @DrTinaEllsworth, and @stephon_jordan.

Our guests are Ovie Oghenejabo, Jordan Lewis, and Tina Ellsworth.  For many white people, the self reflection that comes with engagement in equity and anti-racist work can be disconcerting and uncomfortable.  But for Black people, who face the pressures of racism everyday, there can be no return to normalcy after the murder of George Floyd.  In our conversation today, our guests discuss the need to stay engaged in this struggle and see through, and what it will take for everyone to stay engaged.