The technology choices that businesses make are fast becoming key factors in creating great products and great customer experiences. But who should be responsible for those choices: the CIO or the CTO.

Our regular co-hosts Zhamak Dehghani and Mike Mason are joined by ThoughtWorks’ very own CTO (and erstwhile podcast host) Rebecca Parsons and principal consultant, Marcelo de Santis, who has previously been both a CIO and CTO at large multinational companies. Together they explore how modern businesses can get the technology leadership they need.