Generative AI models such as OpenAI’s ChatGPT and Google’s Gemini need data, and the content creators supplying that data want to get paid. This is the first episode of “The New AI Data Trade,” a special two-part series diving into how data makes its way from a publisher or creator to be used by an AI model, and the conflicts that have arisen along the way. In this first episode, we explore how publishers have grown concerned over web scraping. This has led to lawsuits, with publishers such as Reddit, the New York Times and New Corp.’s Dow Jones suing to protect their data. Meanwhile, companies like Cloudflare are making it harder for AI companies to access data from publishers for free. This has opened the door for data-usage deals through startups such as Troveo. Coleman Standifer hosts.

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Further Reading

Reddit Sues Anthropic, Alleges Unauthorized Use of Site’s Data 

The AI Scraping Fight That Could Change the Future of the Web 

Amazon to Pay New York Times at Least $20 Million a Year in AI Deal 

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Plus: Shares of Ukrainian telecommunications company Kyivstar fall on their Nasdaq listing debut. And the world’s first humanoid robot games begin in China. Julie Chang hosts.

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Plus: Cognition has secured about $500 million to advance AI code-generation business. Rivian says it faces a $100 million hole after the Trump administration relaxed fuel economy rules. Ariana Aspuru hosts.

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Apple’s long-time focus on user privacy has slowed them down in the AI race, as its competitors eat up vast amounts of data to offer super personalized tools. The Journal’s Tim Higgins joins us to break down the tech giant’s latest efforts. Plus, the new way to win in tech is to build. WSJ columnist Christopher Mims says tech giants are entering an “age of infrastructure.” Peter Champelli hosts.

Tim Higgins and Christopher Mims co-host WSJ’s Bold Names podcast.

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Plus: “Buy now, pay later” company Klarna posts revenue growth. And Tencent’s second quarter revenue growth shows investments in artificial intelligence have paid off, according to analysts. Julie Chang hosts.

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Plus: Lenovo’s CEO says tariff angst has calmed. AI hardware sales lead Foxconn’s profit. Ariana Aspuru hosts. 

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Plus: New York AG picks up lawsuit against Zelle that was abandoned by the Trump administration. And OpenAI CEO Sam Altman responds to criticisms of GPT-5. Julie Chang hosts.

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Plus: Tencent Holdings posts faster-than-expected profit growth. Elon Musk says Apple is engaging in anticompetitive behavior in its App Store rankings. Ariana Aspuru hosts. 

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Plus: AI startup Perplexity makes unsolicited $34.5 billion offer to buy Google’s Chrome browser. And disgraced crypto entrepreneur Do Kwon pleads guilty to fraud over crypto crash. Julie Chang hosts.

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Plus: General Catalyst will lead a $74 million investment in Titan for IT services powered by AI. General Electric and United Nuclear agree on cleanup of uranium mine waste. Ariana Aspuru hosts. 

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