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  • Making the Case Against Aerial Surveillance, with the ACLU’s Jay Stanley [S5E2]

    Welcome to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! 

    In this episode, Foundry Fellow Katelyn Ringrose sat down with Jay Stanley, Senior Policy Analyst, at the ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, to discuss Jay’s work on aerial surveillance law and policy, with a spotlight on the work that the ACLU is doing to keep you safe from eyes in the sky. While these two drone on about aerial surveillance (no pun intended), check out some of the resources listed below. This episode will be part of a mini-series on surveillance law and policy with some amazing future guests, so thank you for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

    DISCLAIMER: Katelyn engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions they are affiliated with.

    Bios:

    Jay Stanley started working on privacy and technology issues at the ACLU five weeks before 9/11. His role at the ACLU is to help the organization think through, monitor, and explain the impact of new technologies on our privacy, free speech and other civil liberties. He has worked on a wide variety of cutting-edge science and technology issues and authored and co-authored a variety of influential ACLU reports, policy papers, and blog posts. Among his current areas of focus are aerial surveillance, digital identity, digital currency, and license plate scanners. Before joining the ACLU, he worked as an analyst at the technology research company Forrester Research, and did graduate studies in 20th century American history at UVA (ABD).

    As Google’s Global Policy Lead for Law Enforcement and Government Access, Katelyn Ringrose works on any and all issues tied to data governance. Prior to her current position, Katelyn served as the Future of Privacy Forum’s Christopher Wolf Diversity Fellow — working on data privacy and security. Through the International Association of Privacy Professionals, Katelyn holds CIPM, CIPP-EU, and CIPP-U certifications & is a 2021 Fellow of Information Privacy. Katelyn was chosen as a 2022 Out in National Security Leader, and is a former board member for Women in Security and Privacy (WISP) in Washington, DC. She writes about issues tied to state/federal privacy legislation; sensitive personal data; and appropriate safeguards for cross-border transfers. Find Katelyn’s law reviews and articles in Berkeley Tech Law Journal, Berkeley Law Review, Denver Law Review, Notre Dame Journal of Emerging Technology, Notre Dame Law Review, on IAPP and FPF’s websites, and more.

    Resources:

    ACLU White Papers

    Eye-in-the-Sky Policing Needs Strict Limits

    Press on surveillance in the sky

    ‘Drones as first responders’ programs need guardrails, says ACLU

    Key drones-related court cases

    ACLU v. CBP – FOIA Case for Records Relating to Government’s Aerial Surveillance of Protesters

    Leaders of a Beautiful Struggle v. Baltimore Police Department

    35 min
  • State of the Net Live 2024: Neurotechnology and Privacy, a New Era of Internet Geopolitics, and the Legal Landscape for Online Expression [S5E1]

    Welcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! To kick off Season Five, the Tech Policy Grind is bringing you to State of the Net 2024 Live! 

    On February 12, 2024 officials from the executive and legislative branches joined internet and tech advocates in Washington, D.C. to discuss topics such as child online safety, AI regulation and governance, internet access and affordability, the legal and regulatory landscape on online expression, and more.

    In this episode, we put together three conversations from our live recording at the conference. Foundry alum Lama Mohammed chatted with Jameson Spivack, Senior Policy Analyst, Immersive Technologies at Future of Privacy Forum on the challenges of balancing progress and privacy when it comes to neurotechnologies. Then Senior Foundry fellows Sasa Jovanovic and Daniela Guzman Peña sat down with Colin Crowell, the Senior Advisor & Managing Director of The Blue Owl Group to discuss how internet geopolitics and diplomacy will evolve in the next era of the web. Finally, we had the chance to speak with Nicole Saad Bembridge, Counsel at NetChoice, about the legal landscape for Supreme Court cases this year, which might reframe the boundaries of online expression and platform liability. So sit back, relax, and enjoy a wide-ranging episode that showcases some of the key issues that were discussed at this agenda-setting conference. 

    Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

    DISCLAIMER: Daniela, Lama, and Sasa engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions they are affiliated with.

    Bios:

    Jameson Spivack: Jameson Spivack leads the Future of Privacy Forum’s work on immersive technologies like extended reality, neurotechnologies, and virtual worlds. He works with a range of stakeholders from industry, civil society, and academia to understand the impact of emerging privacy laws on immersive technologies, and to develop best practices for organizations developing or deploying them. Previously, Jameson was an Associate with the Center on Privacy & Technology at Georgetown Law, where he worked on research and policy advocacy related to algorithmic technologies like face recognition in the criminal legal system.

    Colin Crowell: Colin Crowell is the Managing Director of The Blue Owl Group.  Colin is an international tech policy consultant and the former Vice President of Global Public Policy, Government, & Philanthropy at Twitter. During his 8+ years at Twitter, Colin built an award-winning philanthropy program and engaged with global policymakers and civil society on a range of Internet policy issues. Prior to joining Twitter, Colin worked as Senior Counselor to the Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission and previously spent more than two decades on Capitol Hill drafting telecommunications and Internet laws on the committee staff of then-U.S. Representative (now Senator) Ed Markey (D-MA). Colin was the 2020 Commencement Speaker at the LBJ School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas – Austin.  He is a graduate of Boston College with a BA in Political Science and a minor concentration in Computer Science. After college, Colin was a Jesuit International Volunteer in Arequipa, Peru.

    Nicole Saad Bembridge: As Associate Director of NetChoice’s Litigation Center, Saad Bembridge focuses on NetChoice’s litigation and amicus efforts. She specializes in reviewing federal and state legislation that affect the First Amendment, freedom of speech, Section 230 and AI.

    Before joining NetChoice, Saad Bembridge worked as a legal associate at the Cato Institute’s Center for Constitutional Studies, where she co-authored twelve appellate amicus briefs, a policy analysis on content moderation paradigms, and provided analysis on a broad range of constitutional and statutory issues of first impression. During law school, she worked at the United Nations and at Georgetown University’s Institute for Technology Law & Policy. 

    Saad Bembridge earned her J.D. from the Georgetown University Law Center, where she was a Technology Law and Policy Scholar. She holds B.A.s in Economics and Piano Performance from the University of Washington, Seattle.

     

    Resources:

    Neurotechnology and Privacy
    The Neurorights Foundation
    Risk Framework for Body-Related Data in Immersive Technologies

    A New Era of Internet Geopolitics

    The Blue Owl Group
    Center for Democracy and Technology
    Electronic Frontier Foundation
    Telecommunications Act of 1996
    Digital Services Act

    Legal Landscape for Online Expression

    Moody v. NetChoice, LLC

    NetChoice, LLC v. Paxton
    Murthy v. Missouri
    National Rifle Association of America v. Vullo
    Lindke v. Freed and O’Connor-Ratcliff v. Garnier

    54 min
  • The Tech Policy Grind Signs Off (For Now!) [S4E38]

    This final episode of the Tech Policy Grind season 4 stars Class Four Internet Law & Policy Foundry Fellows Meri Baghdasaryan, Lama Mohammed, and Reema Moussa one last time before their fellowship with The Foundry ends in January.

    In this episode, the fellows reflect on the highlights of 2023, including the growth of the podcast, the Foundry’s participation in the State of the Net, and our renowned Trivia Night. Meri, Lama, and Reema share their 2024 plans, and some of the Class Four Fellow’s favorite memories at The Foundry, including a star feature from Joseph Catapano.

    Listeners will also get a sneak peek into Season 5 from the show’s new co-executive producers, Class Five Fellows Evan Enzer and Daniela Guzmán Peña.

    Finally, thank you to our Class Four Fellows for all of your valuable contributions to the Tech Policy Grind and to the Foundry!

    Resources in this episode:

    • State of the Net 2023
    • ICANN
    • IAPP
    • Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at [email protected].

      Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

      DISCLAIMER: Reema Moussa, Lama Mohammed, Meri Baghdasaryan, Joseph Catapano, Rebeeca Kilberg, Evan Enzer, and Daniela Guzman Peña engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Reema, Lama, Meri, Joseph, Rebecca, Evan and Daniela are affiliated with.

      1 hr 8 min
    • How to Start a Tech Policy Podcast and Other Stories with Reema Moussa [S4E37]

      This week, Meri Baghdasaryan sits down with Reema Moussa, the host and producer of this podcast. Reema is currently a third-year J.D. Candidate at the USC Gould School of Law focused on cybersecurity, privacy, internet governance, trust & safety, and other tech law and policy issues.

      In this episode, Meri takes Reema through an introspective conversation about Reema’s journey as a law student and an ILPF Fellow, as the fellowship (and her time in law school) comes to an end. In addition, Reema reflects on her path to internet law and policy, starting with a formative college internship at the International Telecommunication Union in Geneva, which sparked her interest in international law, AI policy, and cyberwarfare. She then explains how she has found a niche at the nexus of cybersecurity & privacy, trust & safety, business, and the law over the last several years. Then, Meri and Reema get into her experience as a Foundry fellow and executive board member. She also highlights some of her other internships and organizations she’s been involved in.

      Reema discusses her passion for being a bridge between professional communities and her goal of harnessing communication as a lawyer to drive innovation. As a tech optimist at heart, she discusses how she balances her motivation to use the law to protect people from the potential harms or abuses of technology, with her belief that technology can ultimately make the world better.

      Resources mentioned in the episode:
      • International Telecommunication Union
      • University of California Santa Barbara, Women in Cybersecurity
      • World Summit on the Information Society Conference
      • AI for Good Conference
      • Future of Privacy Forum
      • Electronic Frontier Foundation
      • ABA AntiTrust Section – Privacy and Information Security Committee
      • Sentinel One
      • Intellectual Property and Technology Law Clinic at University of Southern California Gould School of Law
      • Goodwin Procter
      • VMCA Advogados
      • California Lawyers Association, Privacy Section
      • LA County Bar Association, Privacy and Cybersecurity Section
      • Internet Law and Policy Foundry
      • Leading from the Heart Foundation (coming in 2024)
      • Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at [email protected].

        Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

        DISCLAIMER: Reema Moussa and Meri Baghdasaryan engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Reema and Meri are affiliated with.

        39 min
      • A 2023 Privacy Law Update with Keir Lamont and Divya Sridhar [S4E36]

        Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind podcast! This week, Reema chats with Keir Lamont (Future of Privacy Forum) and Divya Sridhar (BBB National Programs) on the core 2023 privacy law updates you need to know. They cover updates since Keir was on the show last year discussing his 5 key predictions for 2023 – including how those predictions panned out, what actually happened, and what’s coming up in 2024.

        As the Director of Privacy Initiatives at BBB National Programs, Divya’s portfolio encompasses the design, development and launch of multiple industry self-regulation privacy programs. She is a seasoned leader who previously served in numerous capacities at think tanks, private companies, and nonprofits leading government affairs and policy work.

        Keir Lamont (CIPP/US) is the Director of the Future of Privacy Forum’s U.S. Legislation team. In this role he supports research and independent analysis concerning federal, state, and local consumer privacy laws and regulations. Keir previously held positions at CCIA and the Program on Data and Governance at Ohio State University. He holds a J.D. from Georgetown University Law Center and a B.A. from the University of Florida.

        You can check out Keir’s blog post on questions for 2024, last year’s episode, Divya’s articles mentioned, and other useful resources below.

        Resources mentioned:
        • Privacy Legislation in 2023: What’s Coming in the New Year? with Keir Lamont [S3E28]
        • Five Big Questions (And Zero Predictions) for the U.S. State Privacy Landscape in 2024
        • DAAP Decisions and Guidance
        • Not So Sweet Sixteen: Teen Privacy Considerations and Injunction Junction: Considerations with 1A and the Age Appropriate Design Code
        • BBB National Programs Comments to the NTIA/White House on teen privacy.
        • Taking a risk-based approach to health data privacy (iapp.org)
        • New WA Consumer Health Law Drives Call to Action: Adopt Robust Standards in the Health B2C Marketplace
        • AI in Hiring and Recruiting Principles and Protocols
        • Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at [email protected].

          Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

          DISCLAIMER: Reema engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions she is affiliated with.

          1 hr 14 min
        • The TPG Gets Meta (Not That One): Podcasters Unite! with Angelique Carson, Nicole Dove, and Noah Katz [S4E35]

          Welcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! This week, Reema gets “meta” by chatting with other podcasters to give a behind-the-scenes look into the world of tech policy podcast production. She chatted with Angelique Carson, host of The Privacy Beat podcast, Nicole Dove, host of the Urban Girl Corporate World podcast, and Noah Katz, host of the Careers in Data Privacy podcast. The podcast pros get into discuss how they launched their podcasts and what they’ve learned as podcast hosts. They also discuss their careers in the privacy, cybersecurity, and tech policy space. 

          About the podcasters:

          Angelique Carson is a longtime privacy journalist. After working in Maine’s local media, she spent 11 years reporting on privacy at the IAPP. There, she served as the editor of The Privacy Advisor, a monthly publication. In 2016, she launched the first-ever privacy podcast by the same name. Now Director of Content Strategy at TerraTrue, a privacy-by-design software startup, she publishes The Privacy Beat Newsletter and The Privacy Beat Podcast. She frequently speaks at events, as well as on panels, webinars, and other podcasts, and she’s based in Washington, D.C.

          Nicole Dove is an award-winning cybersecurity leader, university lecturer, LinkedIn Learning Instructor & host of the Urban Girl Corporate World podcast with over 18 years of experience driving results across cybersecurity, audit, global operations and relationship management functions. At Riot Games, she serves as Head of Security, Games Division. There, she’s building the company’s first global BISO team, furthering the alignment of business and information security initiatives.

          Noah Katz (CIPP/US) recently graduated from Ohio State University’s Moritz College of Law. During his time in law school, Noah held internships at Zscaler, Ohio State University, and the Future of Privacy Forum. In addition, Noah was the Founder & President of the Data Privacy and Cybersecurity Club. He was also the Managing Editor at the Ohio State Technology Law Journal.

          Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at [email protected].

          Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

          DISCLAIMER: Reema engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions she is affiliated with.

          46 min
        • Brazilian Privacy Update with Marcela Mattiuzzo and Nathalie Fragoso [S4E34]

          Welcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! This week, Reema chats with Marcela Mattiuzzo and Nathalie Fragoso, Partners at VMCA Advogados, on Brazilian privacy law and regulatory policy updates.

          They dive into recent activity from Brazil’s data protection authority (the ANPD), and the history of the LGPD. They also cover how regulatory control of Artificial Intelligence is shaping up.

          Marcela Mattiuzzo is partner at VMCA in the areas of data protection and competition law. She holds a PhD and a Masters from the University of São Paulo. Previously, she was a Visiting Fellow at the Information Society Project at Yale University. In addition, she worked as advisor and chief of staff to the President of the Brazilian competition authority.

          Nathalie Fragoso is a partner at VMCA in the area of data protection and technology as well, with a special focus on internet regulation. She is also a Professor at Insper. Previously, she has been the Head of Research on Privacy and Surveillance at InternetLab, and held roles at the Brazilian Institute for the Defense of the Right to Defense, the Criminal Justice Network, and the Luiz Gama Human Rights Clinic at the University of São Paulo Law School.

          Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at [email protected].

          Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

          DISCLAIMER: Reema engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions she is affiliated with.

          48 min
        • What’s New In Tech Policy with the Foundry Fellows [S4E33]

          Welcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! This episode, Foundry Fellows Reema Moussa, Lama Mohammed, and Joe Catapano cover some of the latest headlines in tech policy.

          They cover the latest updates in the Federal Trade Commission’s case against the data broker Kochava, the DOJ’s antitrust case against Google, and the reauthorization of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). They also cover some global updates on AI regulation, from the White House’s AI executive order to the Global AI Safety Summit. Finally, Reema wraps up with coverage on Meta’s new political advertising disclosure policy around AI-generated content coinciding with new EU rules on targeted political ads for Big Tech.

          Resources Referenced and Further Readings Aids:
          • Data Brokers, Ad-Tech, and the Civil Liberties at Stake with Justin Sherman [S4E27]
          • FTC v. Kochava and What’s Next for the FTC’s Section 5 Unfairness Authority
          • Unsealed amended complaint in FTC v. Kochava
          • US wraps up antitrust case against Google in historic trial
          • Key Takeaways from the Global AI Safety Summit
          • FACT SHEET: President Biden Issues Executive Order on Safe, Secure, and Trustworthy Artificial Intelligence
          • ANPD’s Call for Contributions to the regulatory sandbox for artificial intelligence and data protection in Brazil is now open
          • ICYMI: White House ONDCP Director Op-Ed on Reauthorization of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
          • Wyden, Lee, Davidson and Lofgren Introduce Bipartisan Legislation to Reauthorize and Reform Key Surveillance Law, Secure Protections for Americans’ Rights
          • Meta to require political advertisers disclose AI-generated content
          • Big Tech to face tougher rules on targeted political ads in EU
          • Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at [email protected].

            Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

            DISCLAIMER: Foundry Fellows Reema, Lama, and Joe engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions they are affiliated with.

            24 min
          • Demystifying Election Security Misinformation with Katie Harbath [S4E32]

            Welcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! In this episode, Senior Fellow Lama Mohammed interviews Katie Harbath, CEO and Founder of Anchor Change on election security misinformation.

            With 2024 setting out to be “tsunami” year of elections, Lama and Katie dive deep into definitions, misinformation around election infrastructure. Then, they get into the role of AI in disinformation, rebuilding trust between public users, technologists, government, and the media, and more.

            Anchor Change is a consulting organization developing solutions at the intersection of tech, policy, and business. They focus on global issues related to democracy, elections, and civic engagement online.

            You also can connect with Katie on LinkedIn and Twitter, or by subscribing to her newsletter “Anchor Change with Katie Harbath.”

            Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

            Resources Referenced and Further Readings Aids:
            • “Mis-, Dis-, and Malinformation Planning and Incident Response Guide for Election Officials” by the United States Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA)
            • “People Are Disinformation’s Biggest Problem, Not AI, Experts Say” by Nate Lanxon and Jackie Davalos for Bloomberg 
            • “Hivemind: The New Science of Tribalism in Our Divided World” by Sarah Rose Cavanagh, Ph.D
            • Trends in Gen Z News Consumption in Morning Consult
            • Editors’ Note: Gaza Hospital Coverage in The New York Times
            • “Impossible Tradeoffs with Katie Harbath” podcast
            • Integrity Institute
            • United States Polling Place Locator
            • DISCLAIMER: Lama engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions Lama is affiliated with.

              35 min
            • What’s Class Five Up To? With Evan Enzer, Zia Mohammad, and Daniela Guzman Peña [S4E31]

              This week, host Reema Moussa catches up with three Class 5 fellows Evan Enzer, Zia Mohammad, and Daniela Guzman Peña. Evan Enzer is the editor of the Tech Policy Grind podcast and a consultant focused on privacy law compliance and operations. Zia is a technologist working as a product manager for Amazon Web Services in quantum computing. Daniela is a co-producer of the Tech Policy Grind podcast, former journalist, and working on policy development and stakeholder engagement at a tech platform. We caught up with these three fellows to hear more about their diverse careers in tech policy and what they’ve been working on during their first year with the Foundry. 

              Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at [email protected].

              Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

              DISCLAIMER: Evan, Zia, and Daniela engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Evan, Zia, and Daniela are affiliated with.

              27 min

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            On the Tech Policy Grind Podcast, we discuss the most pressing issues at the intersection of law and technology. We chat with friends and fellows of the Internet Law and Policy Foundry about their perspectives on emerging topics in tech law and policy. From AI to cybersecurity, internet governance, privacy, and more - join us weekly to dig into the latest in tech policy!