If you want to understand cybersecurity policy, it’s not enough to focus on Washington D.C. — you have to also grok the American tech industry. Few people have bridged that divide more effectively than Ted Schlein, the legendary venture capitalist who is currently at Ballistic Ventures. On this episode of Safe Mode, he sits down with host Elias Groll to discuss Washington D.C., Silicon Valley and the relationship between the two. CyberScoop senior reporter AJ Vicens also joins the show to discuss the latest developments regarding Iran’s efforts to hack Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.