Pediatrician Dr. Michelle Perro on industrial food, glyphosate, and what four decades at the bedside taught her about why kids are sick.

For most of a career spanning emergency rooms and children's hospitals, Dr. Michelle Perro watched the patterns in front of her shift—more allergies, more gut trouble, more neurological and chronic conditions in children who, a generation earlier, would have been rare. Rather than treat each symptom as its own broken part, she did what good clinicians do: she stepped back and asked what had changed in the soil these kids were growing in. The answer led her into the tangled relationship between industrial food, glyphosate, the gut, and the developing body.

In this conversation, Nasha and Michelle move past the noise and the absolutes to sit with the harder questions. What does it mean when a child's body is responding intelligently to an environment that no longer supports it? What gets lost when we medicate the response instead of tending the conditions? And what does it take for a physician to let her own observations—not just the literature—reshape how she practices? This is a conversation about children, yes, but also about food as terrain, about the courage to swim against the current, and about what becomes possible when we stop asking what's wrong with the child and start asking what's shaping them.

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Evie Fatz is the founder of Cōpow Foods — a word she made up, colorful and powerful, which is about as honest a description of Evie herself as I could offer. She spent fifteen years coaching people on how to eat and ran into the thing that breaks a lot of us: she could hand someone the truth and they still couldn't reach the food. 

So she stopped teaching about real food and started growing the conditions for it — sourced regeneratively, cooked without the junk, and then, for every meal she sells, she gives one away. Twenty-seven thousand and counting. With her husband Dr. Casey Fatz, a vascular interventional radiologist who came out of twenty years in medicine calling it what it is — sick care, not health care — they've got one foot in the operating room and one in the kitchen, betting everything on the kitchen. We talk about the soil and the soul of it: how the vision arrived, what it cost, and how she figured out you can't tend the terrain for some of us. It has to be all of us.

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Dr. Isabella Cooper is a biochemist and pathology scientist out of the University of Westminster, and she runs one of the only labs in this field that takes no money from the food industry — so when she tells you something, it's the data talking and nothing else. Most researchers study ketosis by asking what it does when you switch it on. 

Isabella walked in through the back door: she took women who'd been in ketosis for years and had them stop, then watched what the body did when the thing was taken away — and what it did when ketosis returned. The body remembered. 

This conversation moves from the mitochondria as a kind of terrain to the wisdom buried in scarcity, the female body the literature keeps overlooking, and the woman behind the rigor. It's terrain thinking in a lab coat, and a reminder that your body is not a machine running down. It's a living system, waiting for the right conditions to return.

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In this conversation, Dr. Nasha Winters sits down with Sophie Trew, cancer survivor, breathwork practitioner, and holistic health advocate, for a deeply personal discussion about life, healing, and the extraordinary intelligence of the human body. Drawing from her own journey through cancer and recovery, Sophie shares how one of the most powerful tools available to us has been with us all along: the breath. What began as a path toward healing became a profound exploration of resilience, self-awareness, and the body's innate capacity to restore balance.

Together, they explore the often-overlooked connection between breath, stress, nervous system regulation, and overall well-being. This episode invites us to slow down, reconnect with ourselves, and consider how something as simple and accessible as breathing may influence the way we experience health, recovery, and life itself. It is a thoughtful conversation about presence, possibility, and the healing that can begin when we learn to breathe with intention.

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While studying at Cambridge University, Ashok developed a debilitating chronic illness that left him searching for answers beyond conventional explanations. What followed was not only a personal journey of recovery but a decades-long exploration into the remarkable relationship between the brain, the body, adaptation, and healing. His experience would eventually lead to the creation of the Gupta Program, a neuroplasticity-based approach now used by individuals around the world facing complex chronic conditions.

Together, Ashok and Dr. Nasha examine the evolving science of neuroplasticity, the role of the nervous system in chronic illness, and why understanding the body's adaptive responses may be one of the most important conversations in modern health care. This episode invites us to look beyond symptoms alone and consider a deeper question: what becomes possible when we begin to understand the body's intelligence and its innate capacity to move toward healing?

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In this deeply meaningful conversation, Dr. Nasha Winters sits down with Dr. Cathleen King to explore Primal Trust, nervous system regulation, trauma patterns, brain retraining, and the profound relationship between the body, the mind, and the environment we create within ourselves each day. Together, they uncover how unresolved stress, trauma, fear, and disconnection can quietly shape physiology over time, influencing everything from energy production and immune resilience to inflammation, chronic illness, and our capacity to heal.

This conversation is not about chasing symptoms. It is about understanding why the body adapts the way it does, how healing often begins with safety and connection, and why restoring resilience within the nervous system may be one of the most overlooked pieces of the healing journey.

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On the very first episode of the Tend The Terrain podcast, Dr. Nasha Winters welcomes Dr. Katie Deming into a deeply personal conversation exploring water fasting, the importance of tending the terrain, and the shared death experience that forever changed the way she understands medicine, healing, and what it means to truly care for another human being. Together, they explore how illness is often shaped by far more than symptoms alone, and why restoring resilience, adaptability, and connection may be some of the most overlooked pieces of the healing journey.

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