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In this powerful interview, Travis speaks to Keith Graves, a 29-year law enforcement veteran and a worldwide expert in church security, to discuss the dangers in and outside the church. We share practical steps for Christmas services, early warning signs, and how to act with discernment and courage.

• Keith’s path from policing to church security training
• Free resources, newsletter growth, and why they matter
• Pre-attack indicators and surveillance cues to watch
• Why Christmas services raise a unique risk
• How to build an “enhanced greeter” safety culture
• When police response lags and how to bridge the gap
• Scriptural basis for vigilant, compassionate protection
• Practical coverage: doors, kids’ areas, parking, chokepoints
• Staying alert while worshiping without feeding fear
• A call for courageous leadership and clear mission

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