In the season one finale, Dr. Alissa, Nikki, and Heidi catch the listeners up to date. The journey from finding out their husbands were transgender women to today.

On this episode Dr. Alissa, Nikki, and Heidi discuss parenting with LGBTQ therapist Christina Lafferty-Neal. The three ask Christina questions about coparenting through and after a divorce as well as ways to help kids through a transgender parent’s transition. The three then discuss their own parenting experiences through this journey.

In Episode 5, Jeff Goins interviews Heidi, Nikki and Dr. Alissa on the black hole. Clinically disassociation. The women talk about the black hole that can occur after a significant trauma, how they dealt with the next day after finding out their spouses were trans women and what it felt like. Jeff helps them dive deeper into what it was like to tell people, watching the transition unfold and the first things they did remember and were witness to. As Jeff questions them, more and more emerges. This trio of women would like you to know some of the tools that helped them to cope following their trauma.

Counseling

EMDR

Friends and social networks of support

Medications

Self care

Massages

Acupuncture

HeadSpace

Insight Timer

Perspective and Gratitude/Prayer

Conscious Uncoupling book

Hiking

Music and Playlists

Dogs, kids

Giving yourself grace

We learn more about Heidi’s history. From wild childhood experiences and trauma up until finding out her spouse is a transgender woman and everything in between.

We learn more about Nikki in this episode, especially as it relates to the various traumas she’s endured and how she’s managed them. Nikki is a survivor of suicide as well as a former spouse of a transgender woman.

In this episode, we explore Dr. Alissa's past and lead up to the moment she discovered her husband is a transgender woman.