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  • The Cult Brand Framework Behind Apple, Puma and HYROX with Britt Austin

    Want the Cult Brand Framework behind some of the biggest brands? Grab The Playbook here

    You're spending more on Meta every month … but is any of it building a brand?

    This week brand strategist Britt Austin, who has built brands at Apple, Puma, Rebel Sport and EA, breaks down why she calls performance marketing dirty money, the five-part framework behind cult brands like Apple and HYROX, and how one runner got Puma into Rebel after years of no (and what they did next)

    We talk about:

    🎙️Where to spend $5 to 10K a month on brand (it's probably NOT more ads 😱)

    🎙️How a franchisee can own their postcode with the head office brand

    🎙️Why the brands that never discount on Black Friday, and what it does instead

    🎙️The two questions that show if your brand and performance teams are working against each other

    🎙️The founder posts that cheapen your brand


    You'll hear:

    00:00 Why a Brand World Makes Your Performance Marketing Cheaper

    01:46 The Cult Brand Framework Behind Apple and HYROX

    05:25 Changing Your Brand Every 3 Months Is Burning Your Budget

    09:40 How a Franchisee Can Own Their Postcode

    11:11 Got $5 to 10K a Month for Brand? Spend It Here First

    15:06 The Founder Post That Cheapens Your Brand

    16:20 The Logo Test

    20:03 Why Performance Marketing Is Dirty Money

    22:52 What Discounting Does to your Brand

    26:12 Don't Do Black Friday. Here's What to Do Instead

    28:56 The Apple Trick that Lifts AOV

    30:12 How One Runner Got Puma Into Rebel After Years of No

    38:09 The Referral Program That Turns Buyers Into Your Sales Team

    40:10 Opening a Chicken Shop Tomorrow? Start Here

    43:51 The Effing Truth: Billboards, Discounts and Your Dad's Makeup


    Connect with Britt on Instagram or visit State of Brand

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    If you enjoyed this episode, check out our episode with Jonathan Rolley on the hidden psychology behind advertising that converts:

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      51 min
    • Khloe Kardashian, Indy Clinton and the PR That Actually Sells with Jessy Marshall

      Want the exact framework Hive HQ uses to turn PR and events into sales? Grab The Playbook here

      You can get millions in reach … but did any of it actually generate sales? 

      This week Hive HQ's Jessy Marshall, the publicist behind launches for Naked Sundays, Bangn Body, Bouf and The Breakout Hack, breaks down why she ignores reach and impressions, why editors open her email before anyone else's, and how a gifted product ended up on Khloe Kardashian's story (and what they did next) 

      We talk about 

      🎙️How to pick a PR agency that already has your editors in its black book (it’s probably NOT going to be Hive HQ 😱)

      🎙️When a B2B brand should chase trade press over mainstream titles

      🎙️How Indy Clinton went from paid partner to equity partner

      🎙️The RSVP formula Jessy uses to fill a room

      🎙️The one word that gets your pitch deleted

      You'll hear:

      00:00 The thing that Put Naked Sundays in Khloe Kardashian's Hands

      02:39 Why Community Events Now Beat Influencer Events

      06:04 The AI Brand Leaving Spelling Mistakes In on Purpose

      07:10 Why Editors Open Her Email Before Yours

      10:26 Founder Brand or Product Brand: Which Goes First?

      12:21 Tried PR and It Flopped? You Hired the Wrong Black Book

      14:05 Trade Press or Mainstream: Where B2B Brands Should Pitch

      20:08 Why Bangn Body Gifted Its Entire First Run

      21:27 How to Get Creators Posting When a Free Product Isn't Enough

      25:10 How an Indy Clinton Partnership Turned Into Equity

      30:35 The One-Hour Photo Rule Event Teams Forget

      34:08 The Launch With No Tables, No Chairs and No Napkins

      38:01 Invite 60 to Fill 20: The RSVP Formula

      44:53 How to Turn a Three-Hour Event Into Sales

      48:39 The One Word That Gets Your Pitch Deleted

      48:57 Why PR Value Reports Need to Go


      See the two Bouf launch events here (original launch and men’s launch), and read about Rhode’s Australian launch here.

      Connect with Jessy on Instagram or visit Hive to learn more

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      If you enjoyed this episode, check out our episode with KAILO's Kristy Morris on getting product into the Kardashians' hands on Apple, Spotify, or Youtube


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      • Website: tfm.marketing/ 

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        54 min
      • Why 99% of Founders Fail at Personal Branding (And How to Fix It)

        Want the playbook for overhauling your personal brand? Grab it here.

        What's the difference between a personal brand … and a performance lead personal brand? And with more content being produced than ever before do you and your brand need to invest in creating brands for every employee as well as your business?

        Today we’re talking to Callum Izzard who you might recognise from one of the 15+ TV Shows he’s been on. He now runs Vyre, a Content and Marketing Agency for some of Dubai's top agents and founders.

        They’ve generated content that's taken an account from under 100 followers to over 28,000 in 60 days but more importantly, it’s grown their business as well. 

        We talk about: 

        🎙️How to use content to stand out in a saturated market

        🎙️Should you use AI in your content creation?

        🎙️Why you’ve felt awkward recording on camera before

        🎙️The one thing 99% of founders miss in their content (including me) and how to fix it

        You’ll Hear:

        00:00 Why 13,000 New Competitors Are Entering the Market

        01:07 From UK Reality TV to Launching a Dubai Marketing Agency

        03:28 The Dubai Mindset Shift

        05:07 How to leverage PR and attention for your business

        08:15 Why 80% of Your Followers Don't Matter (And How to Target Your Niche)

        10:25 What to do if you (or your team) are camera shy

        13:26 What Is Performance-Led Personal Branding? (The 8-Pillar System)

        16:16 How to optimise for conversions

        19:16 The industries that must Build Personal Brands

        22:13 How should you split Company Brand and Personal Brand Marketing Budgets

        26:13 The type of content that performs the best if you’re looking to build trust

        28:35 How One Client went From 96 to 28,000 Followers in 90 Days

        30:44 Live Audit of Taylors Instagram Profile (don’t miss this one!)

        35:38 The impact of using AI in your content

        36:18 The #1 Video Every Founder Must Make

        37:32 The Truth About AI Avatars

        38:47 Callum’s Golden Rule for Anyone Scared to Start


        Connect with Callum over at https://www.instagram.com/callumalexandre/?hl=en or https://www.instagram.com/vyredxb/ 

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        If you enjoyed this episode, check out our episode with Caroline Oates from Youtube on Apple, Spotify or Youtube

        • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/youtube-ai-and-the-new-rules-of-video-buying/id1893220545?i=1000793710385
        • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4mApMGVLKjrIPXcpY75FdU
        • Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci7ICVvqfTQ

        • Follow the Show & Team:

          • Instagram: @tfm.pod | @fieldingmedia.co

          • TikTok: @tfm.digital

          • LinkedIn: That F*cking Marketing Podcast

          • Website: tfm.marketing/ 

          • If you want the TL;DR of what you should actually care about, you're in the right place. 

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            42 min
          • 8 Million Australians Use Snapchat … And They’re not all Gen Z

            Want the exact framework Snap Inc. uses to turn Snapchat into a high-converting attention engine? Grab The Snapchat Marketing Playbook here.

            Snapchat reaches around 90% of Australians aged 16–24, but its audience extends well beyond Gen Z

            Snapchat's Head of Agency & Large Customer Sales, Clare Rudduck, breaks down why traditional social media feeds are suffering from an "AI slop" problem and why 8 million Australians are actively choosing Snapchat instead. 

            Discover how brands are using hyperlocal map monetisation, AR gamification, and raw UGC to capture undivided consumer attention. From driving a 30% footfall lift for retail giants to building future demand with authentic employee advocates, this conversation reveals how to win with Gen Z without relying on polished, over-produced campaigns.


            You'll hear:

            00:00 Why 8 Million Australians Are Using Snapchat 40 Times a Day

            02:27 The Milllenial Guide to Snapchat in 2026
            04:43 The 3,000-Day Streak
            05:48 Why Raw, Unfiltered Content Beats Polished Social Feeds Every Time
            07:35 How Retailers Are Monetising the Snap Map to Drive Footfall Lift
            09:56 AR Lenses and Gamification: The Engagement Secret for Brands
            12:16 How to Win Active Attention
            15:04 Unlocking Net-New Customers Beyond Meta and TikTok Ads
            17:39 How to "Snapify" Your Existing Creative Without a New Budget
            19:08 Turning Employees Into Your Highest-Performing Brand Advocates
            21:14 The #1 Marketing Mistake: Why Short-Termism Kills Brand Growth
            23:36 Let's talk about the Elephant in The Room
            26:49 How can you use the Ad Manager for Targeting, Usability, and Attribution
            30:03 How to Collab With Snap Stars and Harness Micro-Influencers
            33:48 Live Campaign Workshop: Strategies for Local and Multi-Site Brands
            38:39 The type of content Gen Z are searching for

            You can connect with Clare on LinkedIn or visit snap.com to learn more about Snapchat. 

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            If you enjoyed this episode, check out our episode with Caroline Oates from Youtube on Apple Spotify or Youtube


            Follow the Show & Team:

            • Instagram: @tfm.pod | @tfm.au

            • TikTok: @tfm.digital

            • LinkedIn: That F*cking Marketing Podcast

            • Website: tfm.marketing/ 

            • If you want the TL;DR of what you should actually care about, you're in the right place. 

              Hit follow and subscribe so you don't miss an episode!

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              44 min
            • YouTube, AI, and The New Rules of Video Buying with Google’s own Caroline Oates

              Want the exact framework Google uses to turn YouTube into a high-converting sales engine? Grab The Modern Video Playbook here - https://tfm.marketing/podcast/youtube-ai-and-the-new-rules-of-video-buying-with-googles-own-caroline-oates/.

              Ready to execute these frameworks and build a full-funnel video engine for your brand? Book a Call with us today!

              Think you know where your audience is actually watching video in 2026? Think again. 

              In this episode, we sit down with Caroline Oates, Head of YouTube & Programmatic Sales ANZ at Google and IAB Board Member. Caroline breaks down why living room viewing habits have completely shifted, what brands get dead wrong with video buying, and how to fix broken measurement models. 

              You'll get Google's exact framework for unskippable creative, learn how to tap into the high-trust creator economy, and discover how to leverage AI to turn YouTube into an unbeatable sales engine.

              Key moments: 

              00:00 Rethinking the true role of modern video advertising 

              03:08 Why half of all watch time has shifted to connected TVs 

              05:32 Overcoming common cross-media measurement and attribution hurdles 

              07:44 Building an incremental measurement framework for CFO approval 

              10:01 Navigating ad load algorithms and consumer skip behaviour 

              15:00 Balancing brand building and short-term performance to boost ROI 

              20:00 The creative framework for building high-converting ads 

              27:32 Harnessing search signals and intent to drive retail sales 

              34:04 Why machine learning and automated bidding outperform manual targeting 

              38:15 Hyper-local video strategies for franchise and multi-location businesses 

              44:48 Unlocking the creator economy to build authentic consumer trust 

              50:11 Building a full-funnel video strategy for local service businesses

              Connect with Caroline on LinkedIn.

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              If you enjoyed this episode, check out our episode with Culture Kings co-founder Simon Beard to learn how to create massive consumer demand instead of just chasing search intent.

              Follow the Show & Team:

              • Instagram: @tfm.pod | @tfm.digital

              • TikTok: @tfm.digital

              • LinkedIn: That F*cking Marketing Podcast

              • Website: tfm.marketing/ 

              • If you want the TL;DR of what you should actually care about, you're in the right place. 

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                Enjoying the show? Leave us a 5-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify!


                54 min
              • The Hidden Psychology Behind Great Advertising That Converts with Jonathan Rolley

                Is your latest campaign actually working, or are your dashboards lying to you?

                In this episode, we chat with Jonathan Rolley, agency founder and media strategist with more than 10,000 ad evaluations behind him. Jonathan explains how advertising moves through the brain, and why what impresses the boardroom often isn't what makes people buy.

                You'll learn the 12-second rule, a 4-step framework to create ads people notice, how to measure what's really driving results, and the hidden mistakes that drain ROI.

                This is for marketers who care more about revenue than awards.

                Key moments:

                00:00 – The real reason 84% of ad budgets are completely forgotten in 12 seconds  

                02:20 – Why reviewing creative consciously guarantees failure  

                04:40 – What happens when creative teams prioritise trophies over your sales  

                06:20 – The 4-step ad formula that forces the subconscious brain to buy  

                10:40 – The attention TRAP. Why grabbing eyes is useless without memory encoding  

                13:30 – The dirty truth about marketing attribution and MMM models 

                16:00 – This is the single most reliable way to prove actual ad ROI  

                18:00 – How subtle alpha cues and social proof manipulate consumer behavior  

                21:40 – Deconstructing a total flop: Why an award-winning 2026 ad generated zero sales  

                31:30 – These are the price-anchoring tricks consumers into paying extra  

                35:10 – How to scale your brand without stepping into the Triangle of Death 

                38:40 – Why cheap automated scripts actively repel high-value buyers  

                44:10 – The real reason fear outperforms sex and the #1 website conversion killer

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                You can connect with Jonathan on Youtube by tuning into "The Science of Advertising" show or by grabbing his upcoming book on ad neuroscience arriving in early 2027.

                If you want to future-proof your visibility, head here to talk directly with our team about an AI Search Audit. 

                If you want the TLDR of what you should actually care about, you're in the right place. 

                Hit follow and subscribe because you're not gonna wanna miss these episodes.

                See the behind the scenes over at @tfm.pod - ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tfm.pod/⁠ 

                Follow the TFM team over at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tfm.digital/⁠ and ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tfm.digital⁠ 


                51 min
              • From Empty Seats to $200M+: How Dynamic Pricing Is Revolutionising Hospitality with Pan Koutlakis

                What if discounting regularly was actually the secret to building a $200M+ hospitality empire? 

                In this episode, I sit down with Pan Koutlakis, co-founder and CEO of EatClub, the tech platform powering dynamic pricing across thousands of restaurants. 

                You'll learn how a subtle 5% pricing shift can double customer demand, why traditional menu pricing is flawed, and how to build a thriving two-sided marketplace. Mastering the real psychology of consumer behavior will show you how to drive massive volume without sacrificing your brand equity. 

                Key moments:

                00:00 - Why discounting doesn't kill your brand equity  

                00:58 - This is how dynamic pricing fixes restaurant empty seats  

                03:22 - Why airlines make billions from price changes and restaurants don't  

                05:40 - The real reason price elasticity controls your restaurant volume  

                08:10 - The widow seat theory that fills dead timeslots

                11:35 - Why total bill discounts trigger higher spending than free food  

                14:50 - The 35% discount rule that you need to know

                17:15 - The way repeat diners become more profitable than full-paying guests  

                19:40 - The real reason push notifications drive massive app engagement  

                23:15 - You need to replace flash sale urgency with curated recommendations  

                32:40 - How to launch a two-sided marketplace by pitching the right side first  

                34:25 - Why friction-free payments turn users into brand advocates  

                41:10 - How landing major bank partnerships expands your total market size

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                Restaurants can sign up to fill spare tables at the EatClub Partner Portal, while diners can download the app on iOS or Android via EatClub Customer Offers.

                If you want to future-proof your visibility, head here to talk directly with our team about an AI Search Audit.

                If you want the TLDR of what you should actually care about, you're in the right place. 

                Hit follow and subscribe because you're not gonna wanna miss these episodes.

                See the behind the scenes over at @tfm.pod - ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tfm.pod/⁠ 

                Follow the TFM team over at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tfm.digital/⁠ and ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tfm.digital⁠ 


                52 min
              • 1 Billion+ Views. The Organic Strategy That Actually Generates Results

                What happens when you throw out the traditional corporate hiring playbook and ask everyday people on the street what they earn?  

                Get Ahead App founder Sam McNamara breaks down how a series of raw, unpolished street interviews went viral, driving 42,000 users in 24 hours, launching his startup past LinkedIn on the App Store, and scaling organic reach to nearly 1 billion views.  

                He unpacks the operational reality behind producing 18 pieces of content daily across six platforms, how unexpected viral moments caught the attention of global brands like Domino’s and Nike, and the growth levers unlocked by bringing Tinder’s co-founder onto their board. 

                If you are a founder, CMO, or marketer struggling to connect with Gen Z, this episode provides an unfiltered blueprint on converting raw entertainment into tangible business downloads.  


                Key moments:

                00:00: The street interview strategy that surpassed LinkedIn

                02:00: The 1-Billion View Organic Strategy Built Without Paid Ads

                03:35: Hard Lessons from Scaling a Two-Sided Marketplace Too Broadly

                08:14: Why Traditional Resumes Are Completely Broken for Gen Z

                09:27: Poster Campaigns vs. Street Content: What Actually Converts

                13:17: The 18-Video Daily Machine: Systems, Automations, and Editing

                17:41: Why Static $10K Agency Content Feeds Are Dead

                27:12: Value-First Marketing: Selling Your Product in the Last 3 Seconds

                30:26: Boardroom Growth: What Tinder’s Co-Founder Brought to the Table

                42:25: How Domino's Replaced Cover Letters with Instagram DMs

                45:41: The Underrated Social Platform Outperforming Mainstream Channels

                 

                Catch up with Sam, stay updated on Get Ahead’s latest street interviews, and see how they're fixing traditional hiring across his channels:

                Website: https://getahead.com.au/

                Instagram: @getahead.app

                LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sammcn/


                If you want to future-proof your visibility, head here to talk directly with our team about an AI Search Audit.

                If you want the TLDR of what you should actually care about, you're in the right place. 

                Hit follow and subscribe because you're not gonna wanna miss these episodes.

                See the behind the scenes over at @tfm.pod - ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tfm.pod/⁠ 

                Follow the TFM team over at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tfm.digital/⁠ and ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tfm.digital⁠ 

                50 min
              • Franchise Growth, Creator Deals, and the Ryan Reynolds Mistake

                What happens when you trade doorstep sales and logistics for high-end fashion, luxury travel, and multi-figure brand deals? 

                Former Franchisee of the Year turned full-time creator Shaun Birley joins the show to break down his journey from pitching logistics on the pavement to landing partnerships with giants like Porsche, Cathay Pacific, and Hugo Boss. 

                He shares the real hustle behind building an authentic personal brand, content strategies that actually drive trust, and the wild story of going viral as an accidental Ryan Reynolds lookalike. 

                If you’re looking to stand out in a crowded feed, this conversation offers an unfiltered playbook on converting domain expertise into a powerful digital presence. 


                Key moments:

                00:00: How a Family Franchise Scaled via Old-School Hustle

                03:35: Why Guerrilla Tactics Beats Big Marketing Budgets

                04:35: What Franchisors Get Wrong About Personal Branding

                11:04: The Real Reason Your Friends Will Roast Your Content First

                17:58: This Is the Secret to Landing High-Ticket Brand Deals

                28:14: How AI Accelerates Content Ideation (Without Being Fake)

                29:10: Don't Chase Virality: Why Niche Authority Wins Long-Term

                41:26: The Unexpected Ryan Reynolds Mix-Up That Exploded Online 

                Catch up with Shaun, check out his latest travel guides, and stay updated on his upcoming tailoring collection across his channels

                • Instagram: @shaunbirley

                • YouTube: @Shaunbirleystyle

                • TikTok: @shaunbirley

                • —

                  If you want to future-proof your visibility, head here to talk directly with our team about an AI Search Audit.

                  If you want the TLDR of what you should actually care about, you're in the right place. 

                  Hit follow and subscribe because you're not gonna wanna miss these episodes.

                  See the behind the scenes over at @tfm.pod - ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tfm.pod/⁠ 

                  Follow the TFM team over at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tfm.digital/⁠ and ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tfm.digital⁠ 


                  47 min
                • How Brands Waste Millions on Meta, Google and Bad Agency Retainers

                  If your ad reports look great but your business isn't actually growing, your digital budget is leaking cash.

                  In this episode, we break down the most common digital ad spend traps, from hidden tagging glitches and aggressive AI settings to flawed agency retainers, to show you how to audit your account and recover wasted money.

                  Tune in to get the exact 4-step checklist that will stop Meta and Google from eating your profits and force your ad account to drive real growth.

                  Key moments:

                  00:00: Why Page Views Are Lying About Your Ad Results

                  04:00: How Your Ad Campaigns Are Competing Against Yourself

                  05:41: The Truth About AI Tools Ruining Your Brand Integrity

                  12:16: Why High ROAS Is a Vanity Metric That Stops Real Growth

                  15:23: How We Saved 200K in Ad Spend for a 700 Location Franchise

                  24:43: How Squeezing Your Agency Fees Guarantees Bad Performance

                  30:14: How to Run a 4 Step DIY Audit on Your Ad Account

                  —

                  If you want to future-proof your visibility, head here to talk directly with our team about an AI Search Audit.

                  If you want the TLDR of what you should actually care about, you're in the right place. 

                  Hit follow and subscribe because you're not gonna wanna miss these episodes.

                  See the behind the scenes over at @tfm.pod - ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tfm.pod/⁠ 

                  Follow the TFM team over at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tfm.digital/⁠ and ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tfm.digital⁠ 


                  30 min

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