What happens when the methods you've always used stop working?

In this episode of THAT Podcast, we dive into a powerful principle: Marry the Message, Not the Method. Too often we become attached to the way we've always done things, forgetting that while principles remain timeless, methods must evolve.

Whether you're building a business, growing in your faith, leading people, creating content, or pursuing your purpose, success requires adaptability. The message stays the same. The mission stays the same. The values stay the same. But the methods may need to change.

Join us as we discuss:

• Why people get stuck in outdated methods

• The difference between principles and practices

• How to adapt without compromising your values

• Staying relevant in a constantly changing world

• Why flexibility is a key ingredient for growth

• Learning to embrace change while remaining faithful to your purpose

If you've ever struggled with change, felt stuck, or wondered how to move forward without losing what matters most, this conversation is for you.

Episode 37 | Trusting the Process to Your Promised Land

Episode 37 | Trusting the Process to Your Promised Land

In this powerful episode of That Podcast, we dive deep into the journey between where you are and where you believe God is taking you to your Promised Land.

The truth is, everyone wants the promise… but not everyone is prepared for the process.

We unpack what it really means to trust the process, even when it’s uncomfortable, uncertain, and slow. From seasons of waiting, to moments of doubt, to the discipline required to keep moving forward — this conversation is for anyone who knows they’re called for more but feels stuck in the middle.

If you’ve ever questioned your journey, felt like giving up, or wondered if you’re really on the right path this episode will realign your perspective and strengthen your faith.

In this episode, we sit down with DJ TouchTha8thWnda ,radio DJ, creative, culture shifter, and a man passionate about faith and legacy.

From spinning for some of the biggest names in Christian music between 2014–2019, to navigating life behind the scenes, this conversation goes far beyond music.

We dive into:

🎧 Engaging culture as a Christian

🎤 The state of Christian Hip Hop today

💍 Marriage and building a strong foundation

👨‍👦 Fatherhood and raising the next generation

⚽ His love for soccer

🌱 Planting seeds for legacy

🎨 His journey into graphic design

🧠 Navigating dyslexia and living with a stammer

🔥 Inspiring young men to pursue purpose in creative spaces

ot every relationship is meant to last but every serious relationship should be intentional.

In this episode of THAT PODCAST, we dive into the principles that guide relationships meant for more than just the moment. This conversation is for individuals who are dating with purpose, preparing for marriage, or currently in a serious relationship and want to build something strong, healthy, and lasting.

We unpack the dynamics that shape long-term commitment from shared vision and values to emotional maturity, accountability, and spiritual alignment. Because strong marriages don’t just happen… they are built intentionally.

✨ In this episode, we discuss:

• What it truly means to date with intention
• The foundations every marriage-minded relationship needs
• How to align vision, values, and purpose
• Why preparation matters before engagement
• Building strength beyond chemistry and feelings

Whether you’re single and preparing or already in a committed relationship, this episode will challenge you to build wisely and intentionally.

In Episode 34 of That Podcast, we sit down with Mrs. Nolundi Mzimela, the wife of Pastor Wandile, for a powerful and honest conversation about green flags and red flags when choosing a spouse.

Choosing a life partner is one of the most important decisions you’ll ever make and yet so many people walk into relationships without knowing what to look out for. In this episode, we unpack the key indicators that reveal whether someone is a healthy, God-aligned partner or a relationship you need to reconsider.

We talk about:

• 🚦 Green flags that signal emotional maturity, character, and purpose
• 🚩 Red flags you should never ignore when dating or courting
• Faith, values, and alignment in relationships
• What many people overlook when choosing a spouse
• Wisdom for singles, those dating, and even married listeners

This is an eye-opening, honest, and necessary conversation that will help you make wiser relationship decisions and avoid costly mistakes.

Whether you’re single, dating, or preparing for marriage—this episode is for you.

Transformation doesn’t start with motivation it starts with decisions. In this episode of THAT PODCAST, we break down five intentional decisions that have the power to shift your direction, sharpen your focus, and redefine your year.

This conversation is practical, faith-centered, and deeply reflective, helping you move from good intentions to consistent action. Whether you’re resetting, refocusing, or rebuilding, these decisions are meant to guide you into growth, clarity, and forward momentum.

✨ In this episode, we discuss:

• Why small decisions lead to big life changes
• How faith and planning work together
• Building habits that support long-term growth
• Choosing discipline, alignment, and purpose over comfort

This episode is perfect for anyone ready to stop drifting and start living intentionally.

Counting the Cost: Preparing for the Life God Is Calling You To

Purpose is free but obedience is costly. In this episode of THAT PODCAST, we slow things down and take a hard, honest look at what it really means to count the cost of the life God is calling you to live.

This conversation challenges surface-level goal setting and invites you into deeper preparation, intentional planning, and spiritual maturity. We talk about sacrifice, discipline, consistency, and the uncomfortable decisions that often precede real growth and calling.

✨ In this episode, we discuss:

• What “counting the cost” truly means in real life
• Why calling demands preparation, not just passion
• The sacrifices no one talks about when pursuing purpose
• How to practically plan for the future God is leading you into

This episode is for anyone ready to stop dreaming vaguely and start preparing intentionally.

Comparison Complexities: You Feel Left Behind in Life

Comparison is subtle, emotional, and deeply personal and before you know it, it starts shaping how you see yourself, your progress, and your purpose. In this episode of THAT PODCAST, we unpack the hidden weight of comparison and why it so often leaves us feeling behind, inadequate, or unseen.

We talk honestly about comparing our real lives to other people’s highlight reels, how social pressure distorts timing, and why feeling “late” doesn’t mean you’re failing. This conversation is for anyone who’s ever wondered, “Why am I not where they are yet?”

✨ In this episode, we discuss:

• Why comparison steals joy and clarity
• The danger of measuring your journey against someone else’s outcome
• How social media intensifies the pressure to “keep up”
• Reclaiming peace, confidence, and purpose in your own timing

This episode is a reminder: you’re not behindyou’re becoming.

Excuses Are Expensive: Stop Paying the Price With Your Potential

Excuses don’t come cheap they cost time, growth, discipline, and purpose. In this episode of THAT PODCAST, we confront the subtle and not-so-subtle excuses that keep us stuck, delayed, and living beneath our God-given potential.

This is a wake-up call episode. We unpack why excuses feel safe, how they quietly sabotage progress, and what it actually takes to break free and move forward with intention. If you’ve been waiting for the “right time,” this conversation is for you.

✨ In this episode, we discuss:

• Why excuses are more dangerous than failure
• How comfort and fear disguise themselves as logic
• The true cost of procrastination and delay
• Practical steps to take responsibility and move forward

This episode isn’t about condemnation t’s about activation.

From Rap to the Pulpit: Culture, Music & Faith

🎙️ Featuring Gregory Cassim

What happens when passion, culture, and faith collide? In this episode of THAT PODCAST, we sit down with Gregory Cassim to explore a powerful journey from the world of rap and creative expression to the call of the pulpit.

This conversation unpacks how music shapes identity, how culture influences faith, and what it really means to surrender your gifts without losing your authenticity. Gregory shares his story with honesty, depth, and wisdom, challenging the idea that faith and culture must exist in opposition.

✨ In this episode, we discuss:

• The transition from rap culture to ministry
• How music can shape and sometimes challenge faith
• Navigating purpose without abandoning your God-given gifts
• Redefining what a calling can look like

This episode is for creatives, believers, and anyone wrestling with identity, purpose, and faith in a culture-driven world.