Matt Buechele breaks down Trump’s mysterious $2 billion “slush fund,” why no trustworthy operation has ever used the phrase “slush fund,” and the growing trend of college graduates booing AI commencement speeches delivered by men who look like they own underground bunkers in New Zealand.

Then he sits down with filmmaker Celine Song to talk about modern masculinity, internet identity, vulnerability in art, adapting The Seagull in The Sims 4 on Twitch, and their shared addiction to Fortnite and other deeply time-consuming video games.

Topics covered: 

Personality tests, identity, and labels

Social skills and meaningful connections

“Past Lives” misinterpretations 

Heroic masculinity and men behaving well 

Challenging the trope of male characters as lazy or villainous 

Consent culture vs. rape culture 

The pandemic and creative transitions 

The haenyeo, elderly Korean free-divers

Addictive personalities and gaming culture 

Writing, directing, and acting 

Chapters: 

00:00:00 Critiquing AI obsession and modern tech culture

00:02:53 Celine Song on astrology and Virgo personality traits

00:05:48 The importance of reading the room and social skills

00:09:10 Vulnerability and open-hearted communication

00:14:00 Why "Past Lives" is not a love triangle movie

00:15:47 The problem with internet film discourse and movie reviews

00:17:35 Depicting heroic masculinity and men behaving well in cinema

00:22:57 Historical context of consent culture and generational decency

00:30:00 The impact of the 2020 pandemic on theater and playwriting

00:37:00 Directing Chekhov’s "The Seagull" inside The Sims 4

00:43:20 Hardcore gaming: Fortnite, Elden Ring, and addictive creativity

00:54:40 Movie franchise predictions and voice acting careers

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Matt Buechele breaks down the impossible cost of modern life, and why everything feels like a luxury experience or a gambling app. Then, on his way to jury duty, Matt reflects on America’s inability to sit quietly in a room for three hours without pretending to be racist to get out of it.

Then he sits down with writer and journalist Chloé Cooper Jones for a conversation about chaotic weekends in upstate New York, swimming in lakes that may or may not heal you spiritually, and the strange intimacy of male friendship. They also talk about disability, ambition, why reading is sexy, and the freedom that comes with getting old enough to stop caring what strangers think of you.

Topics covered: 

- The Fiddler on the Roof audition 

- Disability in the media

- Writing for the 14-year-old self

- Looksmaxxing & longevity biohacking through reading

- The “saintly” trap & disability as inevitability 

- The labor of being seen

- Mortal peril as a love language

- The Anti-Inspiration Narrative

- G-suite infidelity

Chapters:

00:00:00 Dynamic Pricing and the Rising Cost of Living 

00:01:26 Matt’s Jury Duty Experience 

00:03:13 The Used Swim Goggles Gift 

00:05:28 The Farm Stand Fiasco & "Trump Ate My Dog" Shirt 

00:11:52 Lake Minnewaska and the "Pearl vs. Maniac" Dynamic 

00:17:17 Running 18 Miles to the Beaches of Normandie 

00:25:22 Growing Up in Kansas and the Power of Libraries 

00:31:38 The Theater Audition That Changed Everything 

00:40:42 Rejecting Expectations and Chloe's "Easy Beauty" Memoir 

00:58:04 Dilemmas: Sharing a Car with an Ex & G-Suite Infidelity 

01:08:55 Teaching Writing at Columbia and the Reality of AI 

01:18:19 Final Predictions: Politics, Handwriting, and Florida 

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Matt Buechele rants through the escalating Iran conflict, Operation Epic Fury, the collapse of Spirit Airlines, and why it suddenly feels like Americans are paying more for everything while somehow getting the bolted-down lawn chair version of life.

Then he sits down with comedian Jay Jurden to talk about accidentally wandering into the Ralph Lauren mansion on the Upper East Side, the changing comedy landscape, internet masculinity, growing up queer in Mississippi, and why suddenly every man in his 30s seems to be on Propecia.

Topics:

- Luxury fever dreams

- Consumerism vs. longevity

- The "death of expertise"

- The manosphere pipeline

- Captive audiences and "murder world" death machines.

- Men’s maintenance era

- Crypto is chlamydia

- Pixelated sexual awakenings

- The mandatory metropolitan draft

- Remarkable vs. Relatable

- The "Sheriff of the C-Train"

- Aging and persistence

- Comedic predictions

CHAPTERS

00:00:00 Operation Epic Fury and the Spirit Airlines Rosary

00:06:33 The Vacation Tax: Mississippi Parents vs. London Weddings

00:13:45 The Death of Expertise: Why Vibes Ruined the Skillset

00:19:30 Being Remarkable vs. Relatable: The Magician's Craft

00:26:03 The Mr. Beast Pipeline and the Rise of Aggrieved Youth

00:32:30 From AOL Chatrooms to the Mandatory Metropolitan Draft

00:39:01 American Ninja Industry: Holding onto the Next Career Grip

00:45:30 Commercials for Opinions: Readjusting Post-2020 Expectations

00:52:42 Crypto is Chlamydia: Captchas and Investment Red Flags

00:58:45 The Men's Maintenance Era: Propecia and Aging Gracefully

01:04:36 Luxury Grievances: The Delta One TSA Disaster

01:11:30 The Accidental Boomer and Predicting the First Queer NBA Star

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Matt Buechele walks-and-talks his way through the White House Correspondents' Dinner chaos, the case for adding ballrooms to every school in America, and why we've gotten numb to political violence to the point that half the country just calls it staged.

This is That Sounds Like a Lot, the show where comedian Matt Buechele breaks down the news of the week (even when it’s way too much) and talks to interesting people about what’s actually worth paying attention to.

This week, Matt sits down with comedian and author Zach Zimmerman to talk about dating apps (Zach is a bi king now), attachment styles, and growing up around conservative religion.

Topics

- Body image and online presence

- Dating, bisexuality, and polyamory

- Attachment styles and over-pathologizing

- Religious upbringings and family dynamics

- Standup, career motivation, and creative risk

- Phones, attention, and “the brick”

- Consumer rewards, coffee, and everyday economics

- Substances: weed, gummies, and shrooms

- Listener advice - “too much” or manageable situations

- Zach’s new book: Ship Mother and parent-child reconciliation

- Art-making in dark times and “hope as a discipline”

- Comedic predictions

CHAPTERS

00:00:00 White House Correspondence Dinner and Gunman Manifestos

00:03:00 Zach Zimmerman on the Video Podcast Body Reveal

00:04:59 Entering the Bi King Era and Dating App Boundaries

00:07:55 Roasting Matt Buechele’s Avoidant Attachment Style

00:13:02 The Pastor to Comedian Pipeline and Religious Upbringing

00:18:32 Using the Brick Phone to Kill the Scroll

00:21:35 The Aging Crisis and Creative Resistance

00:26:05 Dunkin Rewards Point Inflation and Loyalty Program Betrayal

00:34:24 That Sounds Like A Lot Construction Worker Woods Poop

00:41:27 Ship Mother and the Chaos of a Bermuda Cruise

00:53:29 Hope is a Discipline and Creating Art During a War

01:01:46 The Protestant Theology of the Rapture and Vanishing People

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When the news starts to feel like too much, sometimes all you can do is laugh.

On his new podcast, That Sounds Like A Lot, comedian and writer Matt Buechele walks you through the biggest news of the week, then sits down with a guest to figure out what is actually worth paying attention to.

This is not the place to get the news. It is the place to feel a little better about it.

New episodes every Friday starting May 1, part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Subscribe below to watch on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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ABOUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT

Every Friday, viewers and listeners can tune in for host Matt Buechele’s upgraded “walk-and-talk” monologue, unpacking the stories that shape culture, politics, and the increasingly strange rhythms of modern life. Each episode then expands into a funny, thoughtful conversation with a guest about what actually deserves attention, what’s wildly overhyped, and what we’re getting wrong. There might be music. There might be absurdity. There will always be laughs. Part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

ABOUT MATT BUECHELE

Matt Buechele is an award-winning comedian, writer, and composer based in New York. His satirical videos about culture, politics, masculinity, and the internet have earned nearly 1 million followers and more than 200 million views across platforms. His work has been featured on Comedy Central, Netflix, and The New York Times, and he previously wrote for The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon. He also releases music under the artist name Booshell.

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