That Tech Pod

In this bonus episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin dig into the high-stakes controversy surrounding TikTok, the immensely popular short-form video app owned by ByteDance. With over 170 million users in the U.S. and significant cultural and economic influence, TikTok now faces an uncertain future due to national security and data privacy concerns. As the Supreme Court debates whether to uphold a law requiring ByteDance to divest its U.S. operations or face a nationwide ban, this episode unpacks the legal, political, and social implications of the decision. 

We explore the critical arguments both for and against a TikTok ban, from potential risks of data misuse and propaganda to concerns about free speech, economic disruption, and setting a global precedent for censorship. The episode also highlights the app’s impact on small businesses, creators, and the U.S. economy, contributing billions annually and supporting millions of jobs.

For a unique perspective from an actual TikTok user, Kevin's 12-year-old daughter Evelyn joins as a guest, offering insight into why TikTok resonates with Gen Alpha. Evelyn discusses her experiences with the platform, how it shapes her creativity and social connections, and what a potential ban might mean for teens like her. The conversation sheds light on generational differences in attitudes toward technology, privacy, and digital culture. Laura also loops in her niece to get the 14 year old’s perspective. 

As the Supreme Court’s decision looms and Donald Trump prepares to take office, Laura and Kevin discuss the possible outcomes, including a TikTok divestment, acquisition by figures like Elon Musk, or a complete ban. They also explore how these developments could reshape the digital landscape in the U.S., including the rise of alternative platforms like RedNote and the broader implications for tech sovereignty, mental health, and teen culture. Tune in to this bonus episode to understand the stakes of TikTok’s trial and its ripple effects across technology, society, and politics.

Today Laura and Kevin sit down with Mike Bowers an expert in IIoT platforms, and legacy system modernization. Mike shares invaluable insights on how to innovate in manufacturing and bridge the gap between technology and leadership. We explore Mike’s personal and professional journey into software development and architecture and then deep dive into the Industrial Internet of Things (IIoT), explaining its role in transforming industries such as automotive, water treatment, and smart city development. Mike highlights how smart factories are revolutionizing manufacturing by improving efficiency, reducing costs, and minimizing environmental impacts—illustrating concepts with real-world examples like Amazon's use of graph databases to optimize delivery logistics. Mike explains the technologies driving Industry 4.0, including the MQTT protocol, the importance of mastering JSON, and the critical role of AI and machine learning in enhancing IIoT capabilities. Mike also addresses practical advice for aspiring professionals: prioritize hands-on experience by working directly in modern factory environments to bridge theoretical knowledge with real-world applications. Mike also tackles key issues such as cybersecurity risks of legacy connected devices and the skills gap in the workforce. Along the way, he touches on futuristic topics like Elon Musk's AI innovations and the impact of robotics on improving worker conditions—, even addressing whether Amazon workers might finally avoid "bottle-breaks." Whether you’re a technologist or simply curious about how factories are evolving beyond the 1980s, this episode offers a fascinating look at the technologies shaping modern industry and the professionals driving these changes.

Mike Bowers is the Chief Architect at FairCom Corporation. Mike brings decades of experience in software development and architecture, and specializes in high-performance NoSQL/SQL databases, IIoT platforms, and legacy system modernization solutions. His insights will help CEOs, IT Managers, software architects/engineers, and control engineers to reduce cost in manufacturing, deliver agility by adopting Industry 4.0, and bridge between technologists and executives, to mention a few. 

Some people call him the Space Lawyer, some call him an entrepreneur... in today’s episode, Kevin and Laura dive into the laws of the cosmos with Christopher Hearsey, an accomplished space executive, lawyer, and entrepreneur with nearly two decades of leadership in the space industry. With expertise spanning space law, mission management, and strategy, Chris provides unique insights into the challenges and opportunities in the growing space economy. We kick off by answering a fundamental question: what does a space lawyer do? Chris explains the origins of space law, the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, and how these foundational principles apply to today’s technological advancements like reusable rockets and private moon missions. He details key topics such as Moore’s Law in space, the role of space in telecommunications technology, and the regulatory complexities of landing commercial habitats on the moon. Chris explains how space governance works, who gets to send missions to space, own property, and govern activities in space. We also cover space piracy, interplanetary lawsuits, and the cultural significance of space exploration. Chris also shares his thoughts on ethical considerations in space exploration, the challenges of colonizing Mars, and what it will take for commercial moon flights to become a reality. Plus, we get his take on important pop culture questions like Mulder or Scully? and hear about Kevin’s "all-expenses-paid" space travel deal—with a twist. Tune in for a mix of deep space insights, practical advice for aspiring space entrepreneurs, and a little humor as we explore humanity’s legal path to the stars.

Christopher Hearsey is an experienced space executive, space lawyer, and entrepreneur with almost two decades of leadership in the space industry. Since 2018, Chris has been the Founder and CEO of OSA Consulting, a strategic advisory and management consulting firm specializing in supporting early-stage tech and space startups. Through OSA Consulting, he has guided emerging companies in navigating challenges and achieving growth in competitive markets, working to send people and things to space. 

Previously, Chris served as Chief Strategy Officer at Rogue Space Systems, where he drove strategic initiatives and expanded the company’s influence in the space sector leading efforts to launch the company's first satellite Barry-1 in 2023. As CEO of Exolaunch US, he established and managed the North American operations of the German-based launch reservation and mission management provider, overseeing business development, customer relations, and market expansion. His earlier roles include Corporate Counsel and Director of DC Operations & Legislative Affairs at Bigelow Aerospace, where he helped deploy the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module (BEAM) to the International Space Station in 2015.

Chris holds a bachelor's degree in Mathematical Physics and Economics and advanced degrees in law and space studies, including a Juris Doctor in Air and Space Law (Honors). He is also Cofounder, Chairman, and Treasurer of the Space Court Foundation, a multinational nonprofit dedicated to the promotion of space law education and the rule of law offering global internship and research opportunities. Chris lives with his family in Maryland where he ran for office in Maryland’s 6th Congressional District in 2018.

Today Laura and Kevin chat with Matt Strippelhoff, the leader behind Red Hawk, to explore the evolving world of software development and the role innovation plays in shaping the industry. Matt shares his excitement about current trends in software development and explains how these advancements are influencing Red Hawk’s approach to building applications. Matt explains how Red Hawk leverages AI tools like code copilots to streamline the development process, while emphasizing the importance of maintaining a "human in the loop" approach. He also addresses the concerns surrounding AI replacing jobs, asserting that AI should enhance, not diminish, the role of development teams. However, he stresses that companies should only invest in AI if they can clearly articulate its value to their business. The discussion takes a lively turn as the group delves into the topic of AI chatbot companions. Laura sparks a spirited debate by asking whether chatting with an AI bot could be considered cheating. Kevin and Matt argue that it is, while Laura counters with a humorous take, adding that falling in love with an AI companion might make someone a “loser.” The conversation also touches on the challenges of using AI in recruitment, with Laura recounting a bizarre hiring experience involving a candidate who turned out to be a group of people. Matt offers valuable advice for non-technical founders looking to build software companies, outlining common mistakes they make and providing practical tips to avoid them. He also looks ahead to Red Hawk’s future, discussing the company’s innovative model of bundling software development and engineering into managed services. Matt also shares stories from his 15 years with his rock band, Grace in Gravity, including the time they opened for Sarah McLachlan. Laura playfully suggests starting a new band called “The Tripods,” but Matt remains focused on his commitment to Red Hawk, which he describes as his all-in plan with no backup. There is also a discussion on the pros and cons of remote work versus in-office teams, sparking a debate on building a workforce for the future. With a mix of expert insights, practical advice, and entertaining anecdotes, this episode offers something for everyone—from tech enthusiasts and business leaders to those curious about the intersection of AI and human creativity.

During his career, Matt Strippelhoff has curated an extensive portfolio in traditional and interactive media. Leading the development of web applications, mobile applications, e-commerce websites and specialized interactive marketing programs, he shapes Red Hawk’s technological landscape.
In 2022, The Circuit awarded Matt the Visionary Leader Award for his groundbreaking approach to software development. Recognized for reimagining the process, Matt's bold leadership catalyzes growth and success. His visionary business model bundles software development and technical support services for a fixed monthly fee, offering financial predictability and operational stability for their mid-market clientele.

At Red Hawk, Matt’s vision, disrupting traditional models, has led to explosive growth, multi-year recurring revenue contracts and greater than 95% customer retention. Matt earned a BFA in communication design from the Art Academy of Cincinnati in 1993.

The majority of Red Hawk's work today falls into three categories: workflow automation, sales enablement and systems integration. Red Hawk also serves as the outsourced innovation team for several clients, collaborating closely with client IT and marketing teams. From feasibility studies to fully featured applications, Red Hawk focuses on delivering measurable value with every initiative.

Today we fulfill Laura's Christmas wish and transform the pod into That Murder Pod™ as Laura and Kevin dive into the fascinating intersection of true crime and technology with guest and good sport, Paul Ruppert. Together, they explore how advancements in tech might have helped solve or even prevent some infamous murder cases. Laura walks Kevin and Paul through three chilling real-life cases: the tragic Brenda Spencer school shooting that inspired The Boomtown Rats' hit song "I Don't Like Mondays", the horrifying family murders involving Jasmine Richardson and her boyfriend, and the mysterious disappearance and murder of Girly Chew Hossencofft. As we examine each case, we discuss the roles that tech, from early internet monitoring to forensic advancements and surveillance, could play in uncovering clues and preventing such crimes. Whether you're a true crime enthusiast or a tech aficionado, this episode is sure to get you thinking about the powerful role technology can play in solving crimes.

Paul Ruppert, the CEO of Global Point View is a veteran CPaaS and mobile services executive, strategy consultant and holder of 2 tech patents enabling global text messaging, with career experience in both the private and public sectors applying a range of multidisciplinary skills exercised at the highest levels of both arenas–from corporate boardrooms to the White House. He has generated over $400M in direct sales, is a skilled cross border negotiator, technology innovator and strategic partnership driver with two decades leading global commercial, product, marketing teams and M&A deals in B2B SaaS sales.

Prior to entering the private sector, with a Harvard masters graduate degree Paul
served over a decade in policy and political roles as an legislative assistant to a US
Senator, economic development advisor to a cabinet Secretary, a technology
industry lobbyist and White House staffer. His private sector achievements are exceptional including scaling startups from $0 to $Billion valuations, forging global strategic partnerships, doing business in 80 countries, working with private equity and $B enterprises managing $130M business P&Ls, and managing cross border, cross cultural teams of teams having lived in the US, France and China.

Paul leads Global Point View Ltd, a strategy consulting firm providing insights to technology companies seeking guidance on focus, strategies and plans via scaling, partnerships and acquisitions. His international clients have included Facebook, MasterCard, Western Union, Liveperson, Infobip, private equity and venture firms looking to leverage mobile services in their digital plans for conversational commerce.

This episode contains discussions about murder, suicide, and violent crimes that may be distressing to some listeners. Please listen with care and prioritize your well-being.

Today Kevin and Laura dive into the world of eDiscovery with Bryant Gauthier and Chris Purdy from Celerity Discovery, a division of Celerity that helps government agencies, law firms, and corporations navigate complex litigation. Bryant and Chris discuss what sets Celerity apart, from their expertise in investigations and expert witness services to their new Multi-Language Litigation Service. They share how AI is reshaping billing models and streamlining the discovery process, discuss career highlights, and offer advice for those entering litigation consulting. Plus, hear how Chris’s journey took him from owning a bar to becoming a trusted courtroom expert. Bryant and Chris bring years of experience crafting solutions across the EDRM. Bryant also discusses their upcoming webinar, How to Leverage Your Internal eDiscovery Program to Optimize Results. Listen for insights into the future of eDiscovery and the innovative work happening at Celerity. 

Bryant Gauthier, the Vice President of Celerity Discovery, is a trusted advisor to law firms and in-house counsel. His expertise lies in identifying cost-saving measures for data identification, eDiscovery, data analysis, data mapping, information governance, privacy, and legal operations. He has a wealth of experience in serving clients in complex litigations and investigations, including regulatory investigations with agencies such as the SEC, DOJ, and CFPB and with congressional inquiries. Prior to his role at Celerity, Bryant held key positions at Huron Consulting, Skadden Arps, Buckley Sandler, Finnegan Henderson, and Xerox. Bryant has led matters spanning the EDRM, handling cases in North America, Asia, and Europe. He focuses on innovative solutions that reduce fees, time spent, and risk fees throughout the discovery process. He has supported Law Firm and In-House Legal teams in litigation, internal investigation, and government inquiries involving a variety of industries.

Chris Purdy, the Vice President of Litigation Services, has nearly three decades of experience in the litigation consulting arena, and leads Celerity’s Data and Damages Analysis practice. He has managed all aspects of the firm’s most complex and high-profile data analysis engagements, including data collection, database development, authoring of Expert and 1006 Summary Witness Reports, and submission of written and live testimony. In the data collection and database development phases, Chris develops and implements strategies to ensure gapless data collections, identifies critical relations between multiple tables and databases, and validates and ensures the integrity of all relevant data fields. In support of case strategy and in development of Expert Reports, Chris works with his clients to identify key case issues and the data sets that speak to those issues, and develops compelling and robust analyses and exhibits based upon that data.
In addition to his work related to Data and Damages Analysis, Chris has decades of experience in developing discovery strategies and in managing collections, data processing, review, and productions. Prior to joining Celerity, Chris was a co-founder of Certus Consulting Group, a litigation consulting firm, and a Project Manager at ZIA Information Analysis Group.

Celerity Discovery provides advanced eDiscovery, data analysis, expert witness and incident response services to clients seeking to optimize complex matter results. Blending extensive experience managing matters across all phases of the EDRM, Celerity Discovery services help clients convert raw data into clean intelligence to optimize cases and mitigate risk. With deep roots in complex data analysis, Celerity Discovery legal services practitioners are proven experts in providing clients with advanced solutions from forensics to final production, expert testimony and beyond.

Today Laura and Kevin sit down with Kevin Korte, an accomplished IT Innovation and Growth Strategist, entrepreneur, and startup investor, to explore how organizations can transform IT from a hindrance into a strategic asset. Kevin shares his expertise in leading-edge cybersecurity practices, emphasizing the critical importance of balancing robust security with user convenience through technologies like Single Sign-On, Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA), and open-source identity management systems. Kevin discusses the power of standardized digital identity management for organizations of all sizes, from small teams to global enterprises with millions of users. We also talk about also emerging trends in cybersecurity and digital identities, providing actionable advice for businesses to stay ahead of evolving threats. Kevin also opens up about his journey from Germany to Seattle and adapting to new cultures. This conversation offers a wealth of insights on cybersecurity, leadership, and innovation. 

Kevin Dominik Korte dedicates himself to inspiring people to take control of their time, data, & dreams in IT, Business, & Life. He is an accomplished, entrepreneurial Non-Executive Director and IT Innovation & Growth Strategist. His focus is to help companies adopt leading-edge cybersecurity practices and turn IT from a hindrance into an asset for every organization. A German native, Kevin moved to Seattle in 2013 to take over the role of President of Univention North America. He is responsible for the US team and helps clients use open-source identity management systems. As a startup investor, Kevin focuses on Tech and FinTech. His exceptional stakeholder management skills nurture strong relationships with high-profile industry players and key partners. Outside of work, Kevin serves as Treasurer to the Jacobs University Bremen Foundation of America, which is part of the endowment of his Alma Mater.

Univention provides standardized identity management systems for organizations from 5 people to 5 million. Kevin's team provides Sales, Support, and Professional Services. 

Today, Laura and Kevin talk with Mike Paciello, a trailblazer in the field of digital accessibility and usability. As the Chief Accessibility Officer at AudioEye, Mike shares his journey, from his early motivation to focus on accessibility to authoring the first book on web accessibility, Web Accessibility for People with Disabilities. We discuss Mike's role in the creation of the Web Accessibility Initiative, challenges companies face in prioritizing accessibility, and how AI is shaping the future of inclusive technology. Mike also sheds light on gaps in the accessibility market, and ethical considerations for emerging technologies. Finally, he dispels misconceptions about accessibility and offers his vision for a more inclusive digital world. Whether you're a tech enthusiast, accessibility advocate, or curious about the intersection of technology and inclusivity, this episode is a must-listen.

Mike Paciello is the Chief Accessibility Officer at AudioEye, Inc., a digital accessibility company. Prior to joining AudioEye, Mike founded WebABLE, which delivers news about the disability and accessibility technology market. Mike authored the first book on web accessibility and usability, “Web Accessibility for People with Disabilities” and, in 1997, Mr. Paciello received recognition from President Bill Clinton for his work in the creation of World Wide Web Consortium’s Web Accessibility Initiative. He has served as an advisor to the US Access Board and other federal agencies since 1992. Mike has served as an international leader, technologist, and authority in emerging technology, accessibility, usability, and electronic publishing. Mike is the former Founder of The Paciello Group, a world-renowned software accessibility consultancy acquired in 2017 by Vispero.

Today Kevin and Laura chat with Derek Ferguson on the future of software engineering in the age of AI. We discuss how Derek is leveraging AI to enhance coding without reducing developer opportunities. Derek speaks on the role of software engineers evolving and which skills will become obsolete. Derek gives advice for aspiring software engineers. We also talk about AI-generated code quality and the right amount of oversight human developers need to have when dealing with AI-assisted coding. We hear about low code and no-code and AI platforms becoming more prevalent and the impact on the job market. Derek gives his thoughts on AI displacing certain roles within software engineering and how developers prepare for these changes in 2024 and beyond. Lastly Derek tells a funny story from a major tech event speech he gave and what he enjoys most about teaching others. 

Derek Ferguson is the Chief Software Officer at Fitch, where he leads the development of software used by investors to identify opportunities and quantify risk. Fitch’s products have won 27 awards — and counting — in the last two years alone. Outside of software creation, Derek is the author of the bestselling Broadband Internet Access for Dummies, an expert in masterclasses hosted by GOTO Chicago, and a speaker at prestigious events — from JavaOne to TechEd and beyond

Today Laura and Kevin speak with Mr. Backup himself, W. Curtis Preston. We talk about the biggest opportunities for innovation in legal tech. We hear Curtis' thoughts on AI redefining roles within legal teams. We discuss the biggest technical and logistical obstacles to satisfying an eDiscovery request when it comes to handling backup data. Curtis walks us through why backups present unique challenges in eDiscovery compared to other types of data sources. We also hear Laura and Curtis' thoughts on the PT Cruiser and so much more!

W. Curtis Preston is a Legal Tech Evangelist specializing in eDiscovery and Forensic Acquisition. Curtis possesses a unique combination of legal and technical expertise and has been an expert witness on multiple lawsuits, consulting and being deposed on multi-million-dollar matters that included intellectual property, patents, and insurance. He has even been a pro se litigant in three cases – and prevailed in each case. He has brought his expertise to S2|Data, a legacy data and discovery solution aiding Fortune 500 legal teams, AMLAW 100 Law Firms & Sole Practitioners in computer forensics and eDiscovery.