On this episode we look at Sufjan Steven's mixtape "The Greatest Gift". And we give you, the listener, a great gift because this was recorded together in Jordan's studio in Vancouver. No zoom, just two guys sharing one la croix talking about this little gem of an album. 

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Join us, as we join Sufjan (with Bryce Dessner, Nico Muhly and James McAlister) as our tour guide through the cosmos with their 2017 collaboration "Planetarium".

We also talk about vulnerability, Sufjan's sexual experiences at a methodist summer camp, and The Water Boy.  

We got to sit down with writer, producer, comedian and performer Joey Clift! 

Joey set out to do what Sufjan couldn't: complete the 50 states project! We talk to Joey about how this idea came to be, how he did it with the help of the internet, and if he's a fan? 

We also got to hear about the projects Joey is working on, specifically a new Netflix show called Spirit Rangers! Joey is hilarious. Check him out on twitter: @joeytainment

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The songs sound like the animals.

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It's probably no surprise that Jordan and Justin love this record. We think it's a straight up timeless masterpiece. 

We also talk about Egg Mcmuffins and Tim Hortons not having honey mustard anymore. 

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We're not effing around! It's the Age Of Adz episode! 

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On this episode we take a look at Sufjan's 2010's All Delighted People EP. A surprise release just months before The Age Of Adz! 

We answer all the crucial questions surrounding this EP like: 

Do you go to Costco just for $1.50 hot dogs? 

Did you know Sufjan wrote a song in 2000 called "All Delighted People" and it sounds nothing like the version on this EP? 

Do you think "The Owl And The Tanager" is a goth ballad? (ugh) 

Thanks to Hans and Jarrod of Blindman Brewery and Red Hart Brewing for the free beer! 

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John Ringhofer is a musician, singer, songwriter, artist, dad, label mate and friend of Sufjan Stevens. 

John tells us about life in Helsinki, the beginnings of getting started in music, becoming pen pals with Sufjan, releasing his first album on Asthmatic Kitty, touring in the Michigan Militia and Illinoismakers and so much more! 

We're so excited to have John sit down with us! Please check out his music at: https://half-handedcloud.bandcamp.com and https://halfhandedcloud.bandcamp.com 

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We sit down to talk about Sufjan Steven's 2009 release "The BQE" a 40min instrumental album about an express way in Brooklyn! Did we like it when it came out? Not really. Do we appreciate it more now because it shows Sufjan's depth as an artist? Listen to find out! (but the answer is yes) 

Also, what was Jordan's journal entry on 9/11? Did we pray for our future spouses in a problematic way when we were younger? (yes) And so so so much more! 

Also, we're happy to announce an email address for the podcast where you can send us your thoughts/ideas/comments! 

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We would love to hear from you! 

Justin and Jordan take a look at Sufjan's compilation of outakes and B-sides from Illinois called "The Avalanche". Could this album be better than Illinois? (no) Will Justin and Jordan like it? (yes) 

They also talk about their fav places to go to the bathroom when they're out and about. (why?)