Happy New Year and welcome back to the pod! We’re excited for 2026 and all the fun episodes coming your way! On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 15: Clouds. Kevin and Rebecca spend the day checking off experiences she’s always dreamed of, including a visit to Joni Mitchell’s old home, right before Rebecca receives her official diagnosis. Meanwhile, Randall is reluctant to open up in his therapy session, and Kate and Toby reconnect in their marriage. On the podcast, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling chat about how you present yourself to the world, wanting to be a good person, and so much more!

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We're so grateful for all of our listeners and it's been so fun to rewatch #ThisIsUs with all of you! We're taking a short holiday break, with a new episode of #ThatWasUs back on January 6, 2026! Until then, we're wishing you love, rest, and time with the people who matter most  Happy holidays everyone!

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 14: The Cabin. As the Big Three reunite at the family cabin, old wounds reopen, including flashbacks to Kate’s toxic relationship with Marc, and a rediscovered time capsule gives them a long-lost piece of Jack. Plus, here to join the discussion is the Director of this episode, Catherine Hardwicke (Twilight, Thirteen, Lords of Dogtown)! Catherine chats about her memories of filming with the cast at the cabin, the drawing she created that’s featured in the episode, and so much more!

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 13: A Hell of a Week: Part Three, and you guessed it...the amazing Hannah Zeile joins us in studio to chat about teen Kate's storyline in the last episode of this trilogy! As Kate heads to a retreat for parents of visually-impaired children and Toby stays behind, the fate of their marriage weighs on her mind. Rebecca joins Kate and has a heart-to-heart about her diagnosis, and through flashbacks, we see teen Kate navigating a toxic relationship with Marc.

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 12: A Hell of a Week: Part Two. The one and only Logan Shroyer, AKA teen Kevin, joins us for a rewatch in the studio to chat about the most memorable parts of this episode, answer fan questions, and more! This episode shifts the focus to Kevin, as a call from Sophie brings old memories and unfinished feelings to the surface. Through flashbacks and emotional moments in the present, we see Kevin face his past and try to find clarity about his future.

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 11: A Hell of a Week: Part One — and we have a very special guest joining us in studio: Niles Fitch, AKA teen Randall! Niles sits down with Mandy, Sterling, and Chris to break down the episode, share behind-the-scenes stories, and answer fan questions. This episode of This Is Us kicks off a three-part arc centered on the Big Three, starting with Randall. After an intruder breaks into his home, Randall is thrown into a spiral of anxiety that unearths long-buried fears. Through flashbacks to childhood and college, we see how a lifetime of holding everything together for everyone else finally brings him to a breaking point.

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 10: Light and Shadows. Randall supports Rebecca as she is faced with a difficult truth at her doctor’s appointment, Kate and Toby acknowledge the growing distance between them, and Kevin takes a woman on an elaborate first date. In the past, Jack and Rebecca finally say, “I love you.” Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling talk about relationships, passion vs. stability, long term love, and more!

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 9: So Long, Marianne. If there's one holiday the Pearsons love...it's Thanksgiving! Today we dive into another memorable holiday with the entire Pearson family (and a few special guests) who come together at Randall and Beth’s new home in Philly. Rebecca grapples with her memory, Tess confides in Kevin about her journey of coming out, and Deja shares an emotional reunion with her mom. In the past, Jack and Nicky begin a tradition that will be carried on for generations to come.

That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show:

The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

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00:00:32 Discussion

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01:08:08 Outro

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Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 8: Sorry. Kevin is forced to reckon with himself after getting intimate with Cassidy, Kate leans on her newfound friendship with her neighbor, and Randall and Beth navigate new parenting challenges. In the past, Rebecca gets a new job, taking a step toward rebuilding her life. In this episode, Mandy, Sterling, and Chris chat with Timothy Omundson who played Gregory, Kate and Toby’s Neighbor! Gregory talks all about the stroke that changed his life, how This Is Us creator Dan Fogelman has given him the best creative and career opportunities, and the impact he wanted his character to have on audiences.

That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show:

The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

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00:00 Intro

00:00:32 Discussion

00:54:59 Interview

01:28:29 Outro

Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 7: The Dinner and the Date. Malik and Deja skip school to explore Philly, which leads to a dinner at Beth and Randall's with Malik's parents to discuss how to handle their relationship. Meanwhile, in the past, Jack and Rebecca welcome Randall’s teacher, Mr. Lawrence, to their home for dinner. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling chat with Asante Blackk, AKA Malik, about his journey leading up to This Is Us, what it was like playing Malik, memories acting with Lyric Ross (Deja), funny memories in scenes with Sterling, and so much more!

That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show:

The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

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00:00 – Welcome Back to “That Was Us” 🎧

03:35 – Philly Vibes & Cheesesteak Debates 🧀

Deja and Malik’s adorable date begins with laughter, local eats, and some serious cheesesteak talk.

Malik takes Deja off the tourist trail to see his real Philadelphia — the heart, soul, and neighborhood connections that define him.

12:30 – First Crush, First Kiss 💕

A beautiful young love story unfolds — from butterflies to that perfect first kiss. Tender, honest, and unforgettable.

19:59 – Meet the Parents: Pearson vs. Hodges Dinner 🍽️

Randall and Beth host Malik’s parents for a dinner that’s equal parts hilarious, tense, and eye-opening.

22:02 – Open-Toed Shoes & Open Minds 👠

Beth’s comic brilliance shines as she tries to “keep an open mind” — and open-toed shoes — during the world’s most awkward dinner.

27:21 – Dinner Table Drama & Class Clashes ⚡

Class, culture, and judgment come to a boil as the families size each other up — with grace said and shade thrown.

38:19 – Truths, Tensions & Tattoos 💬

Randall and Malik’s dad find unexpected common ground after a night of confrontation, honesty, and reflection.

41:07– Parenting Lessons & Redemption 🙏

The Pearsons face their own biases — and learn that love, not control, is what their daughter really needs.

41:56 – Flashback: Jack, Rebecca & Mr. Lawrence 🕰️

In the past, Jack invites Randall’s teacher over for dinner — and the night reveals deep insecurities and unspoken lessons.

58:20 – Langston Hughes, Identity & Healing 📚

A moving finale as young Randall recites “I, Too” — a powerful reflection on identity, belonging, and love.

1:01:3 – Spotlight on Asante Blackk 🌟

The hosts chat with Asante Blackk (Malik) about his acting journey, music, and life lessons from This Is Us.

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Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

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