Nobody hands you a manual for taking care of yourself as an adult. And honestly, based on how we've been doing it, that tracks. In this episode, Aaron and Olyvia get real about their very different, very complicated relationships with doctors, medicine, and everything in between.

Olyvia will schedule every appointment but has a prescription that's been waiting at the pharmacy longer than she'd like to admit (though she did used to carry around a bag of pills for every possible situation just in case). Aaron would rather ask questions than take something he doesn't fully trust. Mostly because he's not entirely convinced "the man" isn't making us sick on purpose.

They're not anti-medicine. They're not anti-doctor. But they do believe in knowing what you're putting in your body, listening to what your body is telling you, and asking the questions nobody seems to want you to ask.

What started as just wanting to be involved somehow turned into running the whole operation. In this episode, Aaron and Olyvia get honest about what it really means to be an involved parent. The volunteering, the carpools, the group texts, the concession stands, and the moment you realize you've accidentally become essential.

Olyvia went from volunteer mom to basically vice principal. Aaron walked in late and somehow walked out nominated for PSO President. There were nachos. There were snacks. There was a soccer game that got a little out of hand.

If your calendar looks like a corporate executive's but nobody is paying you, this one's for you. Because somewhere between the parking lot pickups and the late night drives home, this is actually where the good stuff happens.

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In this episode, we dive into our story. From our awkward first encounters to the first time we said “I love you"... sort of. We talk about friendship before romance, the time Olyvia ghosted Aaron when things got weird, and how he somehow remembers everything wrong.

Plus, we celebrate the little wins in our family life, like Aaron taking the girls on their own daddy-daughter dates. Get ready for laughs, honesty, and a few “Wait… that’s not how it happened!” moments.

Olyvia and Aaron unpack what it’s like being married with wildly different TV taste. Olyvia’s world of reality TV and cult documentaries versus Aaron’s “boy shows” full of crime, spies, and serious soundtracks. They talk about the shows they obsess over together, the nights they stay up way too late because “just one more episode,” and how those shared shows slowly turn into a whole language. Inside jokes, borrowed personalities, and quotes that make zero sense to anyone else. If you and your people communicate primarily in TV references, this one’s for you.

We’re back! Season Two of That’s Not What That Means kicks off with chaos, confessions, and a teenager behind the wheel.

As our oldest starts learning how to drive, we take a hilarious look back at how we learned. Olyvia admits she’s still not exactly a good driver, while Aaron realizes he might be… slightly distracted behind the wheel.

Buckle up, Season Two is officially rolling.

Are they best friends? Do they switch places? Can we tell them apart?

In this episode, we sit down with our identical twin daughters to talk about what actually comes with twin life — from the weird questions strangers ask to the reality of sharing everything (including the spotlight).

We also get real about what it’s like being twin parents — the good, the hard, the hilarious — and why “two-for-one” isn’t exactly the deal people think it is.

If you’ve ever said, “I’ve always wanted twins!” … this one’s for you.

Four kids, one dog, and a multi-state move — what could go wrong?

In this episode, our friends Luke and Kimber join us to talk about what it’s like to follow God with open hands… and a packed SUV. From Phoenix to Mississippi, they drove through chaos, car snacks, and crazy roadside attractions — all while chasing a call to something new.

We talk about obedience, flexibility, and how many bathroom stops are too many. Whether you’re in a season of transition or just trying to survive a road trip with your family, this one’s for you.

Vacation You is not the same as Regular You — and when you’re married, both versions show up.

In this episode, we talk about our very different travel styles: Olyvia packs like she’s moving out and plans to watch the world from an air-conditioned window, while Aaron packs light and wants to explore everything.

From packing fails to vacation alter egos, we’re breaking down what happens when you try to relax together… and discover your spouse packed one pair of socks “on purpose.”

Some topics are heavier — and this one might stir something in you. We’re joined by our friend Bis-Kit, a social justice advocate with a heart for youth and the marginalized, for a conversation about what it really means to be “valuable” in a world that too often measures worth by productivity or status.

We talk about ICE policies, cultural bias, and how the phrase “if they can contribute to society” reveals more about us than we think.

It’s honest, sometimes uncomfortable, but full of love, and truth. If it challenges you — good. That might be where change begins.

In this episode, we’re talking therapy—why it terrified one of us, why the other thought it didn’t work, and how it ended up being more helpful (and weirder) than expected. Olyvia opens up about memory gaps and the fear of finding out too much, while Aaron shares what it was like feeling unheard in past counseling experiences. Plus, we cover important side topics like gagging over pills and the emotional chaos of watching sports on mute. Because obviously, this is a safe space for all kinds of dysfunction.