We’re back! Season Two of That’s Not What That Means kicks off with chaos, confessions, and a teenager behind the wheel.

As our oldest starts learning how to drive, we take a hilarious look back at how we learned. Olyvia admits she’s still not exactly a good driver, while Aaron realizes he might be… slightly distracted behind the wheel.

Buckle up, Season Two is officially rolling.

Are they best friends? Do they switch places? Can we tell them apart?

In this episode, we sit down with our identical twin daughters to talk about what actually comes with twin life — from the weird questions strangers ask to the reality of sharing everything (including the spotlight).

We also get real about what it’s like being twin parents — the good, the hard, the hilarious — and why “two-for-one” isn’t exactly the deal people think it is.

If you’ve ever said, “I’ve always wanted twins!” … this one’s for you.

Four kids, one dog, and a multi-state move — what could go wrong?

In this episode, our friends Luke and Kimber join us to talk about what it’s like to follow God with open hands… and a packed SUV. From Phoenix to Mississippi, they drove through chaos, car snacks, and crazy roadside attractions — all while chasing a call to something new.

We talk about obedience, flexibility, and how many bathroom stops are too many. Whether you’re in a season of transition or just trying to survive a road trip with your family, this one’s for you.

Vacation You is not the same as Regular You — and when you’re married, both versions show up.

In this episode, we talk about our very different travel styles: Olyvia packs like she’s moving out and plans to watch the world from an air-conditioned window, while Aaron packs light and wants to explore everything.

From packing fails to vacation alter egos, we’re breaking down what happens when you try to relax together… and discover your spouse packed one pair of socks “on purpose.”

Some topics are heavier — and this one might stir something in you. We’re joined by our friend Bis-Kit, a social justice advocate with a heart for youth and the marginalized, for a conversation about what it really means to be “valuable” in a world that too often measures worth by productivity or status.

We talk about ICE policies, cultural bias, and how the phrase “if they can contribute to society” reveals more about us than we think.

It’s honest, sometimes uncomfortable, but full of love, and truth. If it challenges you — good. That might be where change begins.

In this episode, we’re talking therapy—why it terrified one of us, why the other thought it didn’t work, and how it ended up being more helpful (and weirder) than expected. Olyvia opens up about memory gaps and the fear of finding out too much, while Aaron shares what it was like feeling unheard in past counseling experiences. Plus, we cover important side topics like gagging over pills and the emotional chaos of watching sports on mute. Because obviously, this is a safe space for all kinds of dysfunction.

This week, a simple disagreement about our kids not listening spiraled into something way bigger — because Olyvia had been bottling up a week’s worth of little frustrations. We unpack how unspoken stuff builds up, how misplaced emotion can take over, and how Aaron’s past sports meltdowns might’ve prepared him for marriage (kinda). It’s honest, it’s funny, and maybe a little too relatable.

Some things come up after the wedding — like the way Olyvia has the palate of a 10 year old, or how Aaron “hops” in his sleep.” In this episode, we’re talking about the quirky habits, weird phrases, and “how did I not know this before?!” moments that pop up in marriage. It’s the stuff no one warned us about in premarital counseling — and we’re glad they didn’t. It’s funnier that way…

Being friendly doesn’t mean being friends with ALL the people. In this episode, we talk about why it’s okay (and sometimes healthy) not to be close with everyone — while still showing kindness and love. Aaron flips the script this time with a story about Olyvia's questionable word choice, and we unpack what it means to set boundaries without guilt.

We’ve all heard it: “Don’t let the sun go down on your anger.” But does that mean every argument has to be resolved before bedtime—or else? In this episode, we unpack what that verse actually means, how it’s been misused in marriage advice, and share some real talk about late-night fights, and forced apologies. Plus, we discover Aaron's "new" favorite song, and why you'll definitely have trouble finding it on any streaming platform.