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we are back! and we are live! join us for a very special live show at caveat on july 28 @ 10pm - or livestream the show from your home anywhere in the 🌎 !

wild love season finale: dr. lucy kalanithi is a physician, professor, advocate and the widow of dr. paul kalanithi, author of the #1 new york times bestselling memoir when breath becomes air. she takes us through loving and losing paul, their decision to have a child even as he was quite ill, and how marriage continues even after the person you love has died.

phd student shirin estahbanati shares her story: being separated from her iranian family due to the 2017 travel ban, discovering a library incredibly situated on the us/canada border where they could safely meet and how she's learned that no matter the suffering, it is always worth it to see those you love.

entrepreneur, mental health advocate & new york times best-selling author jen gotch joins the pod to talk love & mental health: getting the right diagnoses, cultivating independence & how a bad marriage can be like novocaine.

psychotherapist, author and die-hard liberal democrat jeanne safer breaks down her 40 year marriage to a staunch conservative republican: her attempts to change him, accepting their differences and the all important "chemotherapy test."

writer and public speaker toby dorr shares her harrowing story: falling in love with prison inmate john maynard and helping him escape, their experience on the run and how her life has been thoroughly transformed by these events.

actor zabryna guevara shares her experience of donating a kidney to her mother: the considerations and fears that went into the decision and the remarkable recovery process for both of them.

writer and photographer caroline catlin joins us for a raw conversation about receiving an incurable cancer diagnoses, her experience photographing critically ill children, and the gratitude and community that guides her. www.carolinecatlin.com

sanni mccandless (life coach and cofounder of outwild) walks us through the experience of seeing herself depicted in the documentary free solo, cultivating mystery in a relationship and loving a partner whose line of work is extraordinarily dangerous.

psychotherapist and new york times bestselling author lori gottlieb joins us for a frank discussion about our relationships to ourselves & others, and how cultivating "wise" compassion can help strengthen both. Her most recent book is maybe you should talk to someone.