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If the Bible is sufficient for life and godliness, why read Christian books at all? In this episode of Take 10, Jonathan and Laurie start where any answer has to start: the Bible alone is the inspired authoritative word of God, and no other book is essential for knowing Christ. They then discuss how the Spirit uses gifted writers to illuminate Scripture, how good books help us apply God’s word to the specific challenges of our time, and why we should never read them instead of the Bible, but shouldn’t be hesitant to read them alongside it.
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to leave us a review on wherever you listen! Also remember to share with friends and family; both of those actions will help us spread the word about the show.
For seasonal outreach resources and ideas, please visit either our US or UK based sites.
For over a decade, Glenna Marshall’s nights followed the same pattern. Chronic pain woke her at 2 or 3am, and she spent the hours until dawn walking the floors, reaching for ice packs and heat pads, and asking God simply to get her through the night. Then one morning, watching the sun rise after a night of angry prayers, a single thought broke through: You have kept me.
In this episode of 10ofThose, Laurie welcomes Glenna back to talk about her new book Praying in Pain, and the daily trust it takes to keep praying when suffering doesn’t go away. They talk about the long road to a diagnosis, why the Bible makes room for honest complaint, and a four-step pattern of prayer drawn from the Psalms that moves from grief to hope by remembering God’s past faithfulness. Glenna also shares the simple practices that help her remember how God has carried her, and offers candid advice for anyone who loves someone living with chronic illness. If you’re too in pain to know what to pray, or you’re walking alongside someone who is, this conversation is for you.
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to leave us a review on wherever you listen! Also remember to share with friends and family; both of those actions will help us spread the word about the show.
For more information about Glenna's new book Praying in Pain, please click here!
Everyone knows the feeling of falling short. But is all guilt the same? In this episode of Take 10, Jonathan and Laurie talk through the difference between true guilt and misdirected guilt. They’re honest about the unhelpful ways they each respond to guilt, whether by ignoring it, punishing themselves, delaying confession, or trying to make up for it by doing something for God. And they find comfort where every conversation about guilt should rightly end up, at the feet of a Saviour who moves toward sinners, who has already carried our guilt to the cross, and who, like the prodigal son’s father, is running toward us with open arms.
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to leave us a review on wherever you listen! Also remember to share with friends and family; both of those actions will help us spread the word about the show.
For seasonal outreach resources and ideas, please visit either our US or UK based sites.
Ever wondered why we're called 10ofThose? In this episode, Jonathan tells the origin story and explains the vision the name still carries: think beyond yourself, and put books that point to Jesus into as many hands as possible.
Jonathan and Laurie also announce 10Day, happening on the 10th of the 10th! Sign up at 10ofthose.com/10day to get up to 50% off everything on the site. And for every product purchased on 10th October, we'll give a matching free copy to Operation Mobilisation's floating bookstores which take gospel resources to ports around the world.
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For more information about 10Day, please click here!
When Laurie's husband took a secular job after 29 years in ministry, it surfaced a question a lot of Christians carry: is my life significant if I'm not a missionary or in full-time ministry? In this episode of Take 10, Jonathan and Laurie dig into the subtle pressure to do something "big" for God, why faithfulness in Christ matters more than the role you're in, and how godly ambition and ordinary devotion hold together in the body of Christ. Whether you're preaching on Sunday or cleaning up after your kids, God sees it, and it all counts as glorifying our gracious King.
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to leave us a review on wherever you listen! Also remember to share with friends and family; both of those actions will help us spread the word about the show.
For seasonal outreach resources and ideas, please visit either our US or UK based sites.
Every Christian doubts at some point; about the Bible, suffering, science, or whether God really hears our prayers. In this episode of Take 10, Jonathan and Laurie talk honestly about why doubt is a normal part of the Christian life, why the danger isn't the doubt itself but what we do with it, and how to fight back. They cover the powerful discipline of doubting your doubts with the same vigour they come at you, the link between doubt and depression, why you sometimes need other people to speak truth when you're too weak to fight alone, and why anchoring yourself in the character of God matters more than any single book about doubt.
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to leave us a review on wherever you listen! Also remember to share with friends and family; both of those actions will help us spread the word about the show.
For seasonal outreach resources and ideas, please visit either our US or UK based sites.
Welcome to Take 10! A brand new segment for the 10th season of the 10ofThose podcast, where we take on one topic in just 10 minutes. First up: forgiveness.
Tim Keller called forgiveness the hardest thing Christians are asked to do. In this episode, Jonathan and Laurie get honest about why that's the case; the pride that makes us want others to pay, the instinct to fake peace rather than do the harder work of genuine forgiveness, and the tricky question of how to forgive someone who isn't sorry. They point to Christ's example on the cross, the freeing truth that we forgive because we've first been forgiven, and a few short books worth picking up if you're wrestling with a grudge you can't quite let go of.
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to leave us a review on wherever you listen! Also remember to share with friends and family; both of those actions will help us spread the word about the show.
For seasonal outreach resources and ideas, please visit either our US or UK based sites.
The 10ofThose Podcast is turning 10! Join us as we tease a little of what is coming soon, and why we think our tenth season will be the best yet...
Andrew Sach was an atheist who dismissed Christianity until someone challenged him to investigate the resurrection as a historical question. That single shift changed everything. Not just his beliefs, but the way he saw the Bible, the world, and what it means to actually understand Scripture rather than just read it.
In this episode of 10ofThose, Laurie and Jonathan sit down with Andrew (neuroscientist, pastor, preaching trainer, and co-author of Dig Deeper) to talk about how ordinary Christians can read the Bible for themselves without needing an expert in the room. They cover the practical tools that unlock careful reading, why context changes everything, how to get back into Scripture when the habit has gone cold, and what role the Holy Spirit actually plays alongside human effort.
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to leave us a review on wherever you listen! Also remember to share with friends and family; both of those actions will help us spread the word about the show.
For more information about Andrew's work, please click here!
Every parent wants their kids to love reading, but Betsy Childs Howard wants something more: she wants the stories to stick. Not just as favourite books, but as moral imagination, gospel instinct, and a framework for understanding the world long after the last page is turned.
In this episode of 10ofThose, Laurie and Jonathan talk with Betsy (TGC editor and author of the beloved Arlo children's series among other titles) about how to raise kids on books that actually do something. They talk about why a great children's book only needs one big idea, why story-driven formation beats a moral lesson every time, how to use books mid-discipline rather than just at bedtime, and why the best spiritual conversations with your kids often happen not in family devotions but in the middle of a car ride.
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to leave us a review on wherever you listen! Also remember to share with friends and family; both of those actions will help us spread the word about the show.
For more information about Betsy's work, please click here!
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