Recorded live at the 2025 IACP Annual Conference, this special episode of The 21CP Pod revisits the legacy of the President’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing. A decade after its release, Task Force members Roberto Villaseñor, Ronald Davis, Laurie Robinson, Charles Ramsey, and Sean Smoot reflect on the recommendations that have stood the test of time, the changes they’ve seen across the profession, and the work that still lies ahead.

In this episode, Partner Ron Davis and Associate Consultant Terry Gainer discuss swatting—the dangerous practice of making false emergency reports to trigger high-intensity police responses. Drawing on decades of leadership at the local, state, and federal level, Ron and Terry explore why these incidents are so dangerous and why preparation can mean the difference between tragedy and a safe resolution.

In a special shot podcast, 21CP founding partner Roberto Villaseñor reflects on the 10th anniversary of the President's Task Force on 21st Century Policing—where he served as a Task Force member—and the founding of 21CP itself.  Hear his perspective on some of the most interesting work he's done with 21CP and how he would rethink his approach to being a police officer if he had it all to do all over again.